To: <bprlist@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [bprlist] Fw: Sharon's Georgian roots
From: "Beverly
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 00:48:45 -0500

Interesting bit of information I wonder what the word Scheinerman means they
most all have a meaning... hmmmmmmm

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From: Shoshanna
To: Endtimes <endtimes-news-events@egroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2001 11:25 PM
Subject: Sharon's Georgian roots

>
> Documentary film planned on Sharon's Georgian roots Associated
> Press
>
> TBILISI, Georgia - A Georgian journalist and a film director said
> Thursday that they were making a documentary about the
> Georgian roots of Israeli Prime Minister-elect Ariel Sharon, whose
> parents were born and met in the Caucasus nation.
>
> Guram Batiashvili, chief editor of Georgia's Jewish newspaper
> Menorah, says he is writing the screenplay. He said he decided to
> make the film in 1999, when then-Foreign Minister Sharon visited
> Georgia. Sharon took long walks in a park around the Tbilisi
> University, where his parents had once studied and where they
> met, Batiashvili said. Filming could begin by the end of the year,
> director Gogi Toradze said.
>
> Sharon's original name was Scheinerman and his parents came
> from a small village in Georgia. They emigrated in the 1920s, and
> Sharon was born in 1928 in Kefar Malal, Palestine, which is now in
> Israel. Sharon's aunt is buried in the Georgian capital Tbilisi, said
> his aide Raanan Gissin.
>
> copyright 2000 Ha'aretz. All Rights Reserved
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Subject: [bprlist] Arab Angels?
From: Stafford's Mail <simmonds@freeuk.com>
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 09:48:55 GMT

Shalom dear friends

We have so much doom and gloom these days that the following report
from Jerry Golden brings a breath of fresh air today.

Blessings Stafford
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Jerry Golden "REPORT"

This is a report of a different kind. I feel in all fairness I must tell
you what happened to Connie and I on our way home from Jerusalem
tonight. We had car trouble again, this time I noticed the car was
getting very hot even going down hill. I pulled over and found that
the water hose was leaking in fact it had leaked all the water out of
the radiator. We were setting in front of a Palestinian neighborhood.
 The car was so hot I thought the motor was surely damaged. Listening
to the radio as I pulled the car over I heard that there was an ambush
on the Gillo road and an Israel was killed only a few minutes ago, and
that was not but a mile from where we were at the time. To say we were
in a dangerous spot would be an understatement. My major concern was
for Connie and there was nothing I could do but pray that God would
send someone to help us.

A car pulled up, and out stepped four Arabs, in their late 20's and early 30's.
 Not actually what I was looking for for help. I said God, this is
the help you send? But I felt the Holy Spirit beginning to move
inside me, and a calm fell over me, and I knew all was well, God was
there.

These four young men, had every thing I needed to patch that hose by
splicing the old one then using a peace of pipe fitting and they had
the extra hose clamps and the knowledge to fix our car good enough to
get us home. No one could ask for nicer guys these four were. They
seemed be more concerned in getting us out of that area than we were.
 Does God send Arab Angels? Who knows, but I can tell you this, there
was something very special about these four young Arab men who found
us in the middle of the night broke down and at their mercy. They got
in their car and left as misterious as they came. We came on home,
needless to say thanking and praising God for being there for us.

Shalom, jerry

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To: Steven <Syksteven@aol.com>
Subject: [bprlist] Women and Virgins
From: Pam
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 06:18:17 -0500

Dear Steven:

    Thank you for your response to the twelve x 12,000. You wrote: "The
Church is always referred to as a woman......even false churches, such
as the woman riding the beast. In the Old Testament, GOD likened pagan
idol worship to fornification. Why should it mean anything
different here? With GOD's Peace,"
Steven Sykes

    I agree that the Church is always referred to a woman and it was not
my intention to imply, in my writeup, that the Church is not a woman.
However, I am at a loss to know why you think I meant anything
different. There are many 'churches', but there is only one 'Virgin'
Christian Church. I think it is a 'virgin' because it refuses to
fornicate with the world, become a part of the world. It is 'betrothed'
to Our Lord Jesus Christ. On that basis, members of that Church can, I
think, be referred to as 'virgins'. I trust this meets with your
agreement Praise the Lord!

    God Bless you. Charlie Baker..

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To: bprlist@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [bprlist] Women and Virgins
From: Syksteven
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 12:08:37 EST

In a message dated 2/12/01 8:29:24 AM, bakerpj@earthlink.net writes:

<< I agree that the Church is always referred to a woman and it was not
my intention to imply, in my writeup, that the Church is not a woman.
However, I am at a loss to know why you think I meant anything
different. >>

In a message dated 2/9/01 1:45:13 PM, bakerpj@earthlink.net writes:

<< For some time I have thought the 144,000 would be =E2=80=98Messianic Je=
ws=E2=80=99,

Jews who have accepted Jesus Christ as the Son of God and who have

maintained their =E2=80=98Jewish=E2=80=99 identity. The Bible refers to th=
em as

=E2=80=98virgins=E2=80=99, in Rev. 14:4, when John sees them with the Lamb =
on mount

Sion. As with all Christian =E2=80=98virgins=E2=80=99 they are not defiled=
 with women,

with the nations of the world, their love is given to the Lamb. Praise

the Lord! >>

It sounds like your saying the 144,000 are "Jewish" and/or literal virgins,=
=20
not having slept with women.

I take the above scripture to mean 144,000 that have not defiled themselves=
=20
with false churches/false worship. I think we would all agree that not all=
=20
Christian Churches are true churches.....in fact.....just like the religiou=
s=20
establishment in Jesus's day, in my opinion, most are not. The true=20
assembly/group of Christ is not any particular denomination......The FATHER=
=20
knows who & where they are......"many are called.....but few are chosen".

Also most Israelites were never "Jews". If your refering to "Judism" the=20
religion, well, a simple study of Judism plainly shows it is far removed fr=
om=20
the simple "religion" given by Moses. They have added an awful lot to simp=
le=20
instructions, just as traditional Christianity has subtracted from them.

....and I don't mean to apply any racial or bloodline meanings to this=20
discussion. Paul explains who the "Israelites" are plain enough. Rom. 9:6-8=
 &=20
Gal. 3:29

Just my thoughts,
Steven Sykes

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To: bprlist@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [bprlist] (Fwd) Matthew. Prayers answered
From: <owner-bpr@philologos.org>
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 08:23:50 -0500

------- Forwarded message follows -------
Date sent: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 04:52:18 -0800
From: "David
Subject: Matthew. Prayers answered

Aloha,

The surgeon, John Freeman, told us that he didn't expect to find
anything. He didn't even know where he was going to cut. 'Do I look at
the small bowel first, or the large bowel. You know, its very rare for
a surgeon to not even know where he should go in.'

The paediatritian in charge of the case, Simon James, told us three
times that we shouldn't expect anything to come out of this operation.
His thoughts were on a scrambled nervous system in a subsquently
inactive bowel, probably the large intestine and possibly seriously
affecting the small intestine.

Our personal paediatritian, Chris Lamb, who had deferred, rather
honourably, to Simon, but who was kept up with developments and
consulted with, did not hold out much hope.

John was of the same opinion as Simon and Chris, and I think that
Prof. Davidson, from another hospital, still wanted to do a biopsy.

Our faith and prayer kept us focussed. We didn't expect what the
doctors expected. We expected that God would present the surgeon with
something that could be fixed. Albeit we did both have flashes of a
useless bowel, but we had God on our side. It wasn't possible that all
of the prayer that has been going up could fail.

In my immediately previous email I outlined how our Pastor had
annointed layed hands on Matthew in preparation for the surgery.

I also noted that the reason this surgery was happening was because
Simon had awoken at 3 am Sunday morning with the thought that he must
have Matthew opened up.

Despite everybody expecting nothing operable but being driven by
despair and Simon's request following his waking thought, they went
ahead with it.

At 3 pm Monday Matthew was wheeled-off in his blue cot. I was told
he'd be about an hour. At 4.35 pm he wasn't back so I headed back to
work ('take whatever time you need') to get my briefcase and so on.
Deidre had Amber were at music lessons and we met up back at the
hospital at 5.30 pm. We learned later that the operation had not got
underway until around 5.00 pm.

At 7 pm we headed back to the hospital. They hadn't rung us to say he
was out so we expected to be waiting for him. My mum and dad were
sitting by his cot, grins on their faces. Rosie, the nurse who looked
after him in surgery, was grinning. My mum and dad had been crying.
Mum still was. Obviously something good had happened!

Matthew simply had a narrowing of the bowel. The tricky part was that
this narrow part, (5 inches were removed) was tucked up behind his
stomach preventing x-rays from revealing it. Rosie said she jumped up
and down and the surgeon's smile didn't need to be seen to know it was
there.

The relief was apparent in the nursing staff too, smiling and giving
thumbs up to us from different parts of the neonatal unit.

Prayers were answered in the best possible manner; no treatment with
this or that concoction; just time for healing. He should be home in a
couple of weeks . . . and we've got some catching up to do! :)

Thank you all for your prayers and support.

God Bless
David, Deidre, Amber, and Matthew

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To: bprlist@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [bprlist] (Fwd) Matthew. Prayers answered
From: B D
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 06:35:21 -0800 (PST)

PRAISE HIS HOLY NAME
HOLY HOLY HOLY IS OUR LORD GOD OF HOSTS
as I read this last email...tears of joy ran down my
face, my spirit quickened as the Lord's truth of being
has been revealed yet again...
God Bless Matthew and his family...
Amen Amen Amen

> The surgeon, John Freeman, told us that he didn't
> expect to find
> anything. He didn't even know where he was going to
> cut. 'Do I look at
> the small bowel first, or the large bowel. You know,
> its very rare for
> a surgeon to not even know where he should go in.'
>
> The paediatritian in charge of the case, Simon
> James, told us three
> times that we shouldn't expect anything to come out
> of this operation.
> His thoughts were on a scrambled nervous system in a
> subsquently
> inactive bowel, probably the large intestine and
> possibly seriously
> affecting the small intestine.
>

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Subject: [bprlist] Matthew. Prayers answered
From: "Stricker"
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 20:47:19 -0600

When the prayer request for Matthew first came across the list, I shared it
with four teenagers I homeschool. We prayed together for Matthew each day.
Of course, I'm thrilled. Of course, I recognized the privilege. But the
experience for these kids!

We have been praying with them, trying to teach them the centrality prayer
must have in our lives.
What a lesson God had prepared for them!

Like I wrote earlier, what a privilege, what a privilege. Thank you and
praise be to God!

Dia

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To: <bprlist@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [bprlist] (Fwd) Matthew. Prayers answered
From: "Sunday"
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 15:32:28 -0500

To All - Re: Baby Matthew
God is Good.........God is very Good!
What a Mighty God we serve!
I am so happy right now, well.....I just don't know what to do.....I
just finished reading David Elphick's forward on Matthew's surgery.......To God be the Praise!
Now this family can get back together with their baby and begin
to enjoy him and bask in the love of God. - God Bless you all.
-Dawn

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To: <bprlist@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [bprlist] (Fwd) Matthew. Prayers answered
From: "Beverly
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 19:44:09 -0500

How can we express the Joy of the Lord ,OH MY I am overwhelmed at the
WONDERS of HIS LOVE .. Thank you so much for the priviledge of looking on "
this Act of LOve of Jesus and Matthew"...I am most proud of MY LORD AND HIS
WONDEROUS WORKS. YES HE is all sufficient to our prayers and HIS creation..
LOVING HIM in HIS GOODNESS...

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To: bprlist@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [bprlist] 12 x 12,000 'Virgins' --note the numbers!!
From: Syksteven
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 11:05:52 EST

I have noticed how, very often certain numbers are used over and over again.
The Bible doesn't give an explanation for this. I shy away from trying to
"add or subtract" anything to the simple message that is usually given. I
think we can get into trouble when we try to develop ideas based on some
oddity from the Bible. Most of the time, (though not always) the Bible does
a pretty good job of explaining itself. When it doesn't......well,.....maybe
it's not that important.

When the Lord is ready to reveal something....He doesn't leave much room for
doubt to the individuals He is revealing it too. Look at the examples given;
Paul, Moses, the sheppards in the field, any of the prophets, etc. Did any
of these figure out their "revelations" themselves, by studying numbers or
even scripture? The examples given us in the Bible show that scriptures are
usually used to confirm "special" revelations (Isa.8:20)......not give them.

In GOD's peace,
Steven Sykes

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Subject: [bprlist] Biometrics items...
From: Shophar_Sho_Good
Date: 12 Feb 2001 13:16:31 EST

(For those who don't believe or don't realize how mainstream these items
are, when something gets qualified for Window 2000 Professional the market
is wanting the product ASAP! Let the marketing begin! See also follow-up on
the facial profiling which tries to justify it by the "good" it yielded, and
in the third item a futurist looks forward ...SSG)

EXCERPTED ITEMS FROM---
********************************
Welcome to "Biometric Weekly " - a weekly report on biometric
identification news - a service of the "Biometric Digest."

This week's news - 02/12/01

Biometrics
----------

*** Identix Biometric Security Products Receive Microsoft
Certification

Identix Incorporated (Amex: IDX), the worldwide leader in providing
biometric authentication, security and identification solutions,
announced that its BioLogon software and BioTouch PC Card fingerprint
reader received certification for Windows 2000 Professional from
Microsoft Corp. (Nasdaq: MSFT). Identix's products are the first
biometric software plus hardware solution to be qualified by Microsoft
for Windows 2000 Professional.

-

*** And Now, the Good Side Of Facial Profiling

It seemed like an Orwellian revelation: Last week, law enforcement
officials at Super Bowl XXXV in Tampa secretly scanned spectators'
faces with surveillance cameras and instantly compared their
"faceprints" against those of suspected terrorists and known criminals
in a computerized database. Alarmed civil libertarians quickly raised
the specter of a Big Brother government spying on its citizens. But is
the growing use of this technology cause for alarm? Is it an
undesirable invasion of individual privacy, or does it represent a
positive advance in security measures that generates benefits for
society? As someone who closely follows law and policy issues related
to biometrics -- technologies that use a person's physical
characteristics or personal traits for recognition -- I believe we
must not move precipitously to condemn a technology that can serve as
a useful tool in the fight against crime and terrorism.

Read the entire article by John Woodward in the Washington Post at:
http://washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A23360-2001Feb3.html

--------------
Human Interest
--------------

*** FORECASTS IN THE NEXT FUTURIST

The March-April 2001 issue of THE FUTURIST features part II of the
excerpt from the special report "50 Trends Now Changing the World" by
Marvin Cetron and Owen Davies. Here, the authors focus on trends in
technology, the workplace, management, and institutions. Among their
forecasts:

* By 2005, the global population of Internet users will reach at least
300 million. By 2010, 95% of people in the industrialized world and
50% of those in developing countries will be online.

* By 2010, New York, Tokyo, and Frankfurt will emerge as transfer
points for passengers of high-speed, large-capacity supersonic planes.

* Airline crashes will decline and result in fewer fatalities.
Reasons: safer seat design, flash-resistant fuels, and improved
navigation and communication technologies for transoceanic flights.

*** FEELING CHEATED ABOUT THE FUTURE?

A recent national opinion poll in Britain found that many people as
disappointed in the twenty-first century because it isn't as
futuristic as they thought it would be. Evidently the robotic puppies,
mobile phones, and wireless Web gadgets that they got for Christmas
just weren't enough.

What did they expect? Among other things, nearly half of those polled
said they expected the new century to offer routine Moon travel,
holidays on Jupiter and Mars, robots that do the household chores, and
cars that fly.

"Our poll shows just how quickly the year 2001 has crept up on all of
us," says Jackie Highe, editor of BELLA magazine, which sponsored the
survey conducted by National Opinion Poll
(mailto:nopinfo@nopres.co.uk). "While we might wish we were all flying
around in aerial cars, perhaps at the same time we should be thankful
that other things remain down-to-earth."

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To: Steven <Syksteven@aol.com>, <bprlist@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [bprlist] Jews and Virgins
From: Pam
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 14:14:03 -0500

Dear Steve:
    Thank you for your reply. You wrote: "It sounds like your saying
the 144,000 are "Jewish" and/or literal virgins,
not having slept with women." I would appear, Steve, that I did not
make myself clear and I apologize. I am saying the 144,000 will be
Jewish but not that they will be literal virgins. I think they will be
144,000 accredited male Jewish descendants of the original 12 tribes and
they will be 'virgins' by virtue of being Christians, in the true sense
of the word. As such, they will be 'spiritual' virgins, just as I think
all 'true' Christians are spiritual virgins. I apologize for failing to
make myself clear.
    I think you are wrong when you say: "Also most Israelites were
never "Jews". I am sure you will find there are many, many Israelites
who can trace their ancestry back to the original 12 tribes, not only in
Israel but in other parts of the world where there are Jews . A Jew is
a Jew who has a Jewish father and has been circumcised on the eighth
day. That is my understanding of the term 'Jew'. What is yours?
    I do not think Zionism has anything to do with 'Jewishness' any more
than belonging to a particular Christian denomination has any thing to
do with being a Christian, in the eyes of God. Praise the Lord!
    I agree that only God knows who is a 'true' Christian, Steve,
because a Christian believes in his heart that God raised Jesus from the
dead and only God know what anyone believes in their heart. Praise the
Lord!
    God Bless you. Charlie Baker.

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