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Subject: [BPR] - (Fwd) AstroAlert: Fast-mover 2000 QW7
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Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 08:38:51 -0400

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Subject: AstroAlert: Fast-mover 2000 QW7

                 Minor Planet AstroAlert: 2000 QW7

On August 26, 2000, the NEAT/MSSS survey (Eleanor F. Helin and colleagues) picked up an unusually bright near-Earth asteroid with its 1.2-m reflector on Haleakala, Hawaii. In an electronic circular issued this afternoon, Gareth V. Williams of the Minor Planet Center ( http://cfa-
www.harvard.edu/iau/mpc.html ) in Cambridge, Massachusetts, designated this object 2000 QW7.

About magnitude 13.6 when first detected, the asteroid will brighten to 12.7 within the next week as it makes a moderately close flyby, coming within 0.032 astronomical unit of Earth (about 12 Earth-Moon distances) in the first few days of September. Anyone with an 8-inch or larger telescope and
clear, dark skies should have no trouble spotting the object visually during this period as it glides from Aquarius through Pisces into Cetus. Small CCD-equipped telescopes can also capture trailed images of 2000 QW7. (See the detailed ephemeris at the end of this AstroAlert.)

As soon as NEAT astronomers reported the object, the Minor Planet Center posted the position and direction of motion on the NEO Confirmation Page of its Web site. Within the next 30 hours, a total of 115 precise positions had arrived from 19 astrometric observatories around the world (including 7
positions obtained by the undersigned at the Drum Hill Station in northern Massachusetts). Williams then issued on Minor Planet Electronic Circular 2000-Q32, containing the following preliminary orbital elements (equinox 2000.0):

  Epoch 2000 Aug. 24.0 TT
  Mean anomaly, M 353.92092
  Semimajor axis, a 1.9510626
  Eccentricity, e 0.4694395
  Arg. of perihelion 190.39996
  Long. of ascending node 158.81329
  Inclination, i 4.16947

The elements show that this asteroid belongs to the Amor family and follows an orbit inclined 4.2 d
egrees to the ecliptic. It ranges as far out as the main belt of asteroids (roughly midway between
Mars and Jupiter), but every 2.7 years it comes in to a point fairly close to the Earth's orbit. As
 far as is currently known, the object has not been detected by astronomers before. Its brightness
suggests it may be about a half mile (0.8 kilometer) across.

The following ephemeris, calculated at Sky & Telescope from the above elements, gives the object's
right ascension and declination at 6-hour intervals for the next two weeks. Also listed is its dist
ance from the Earth (Delta) and the Sun (r) in a.u., expected visual magnitude, and the constellati
on through which it is passing.

When searching for the asteroid, keep in mind the parallax effect. Because the object is so close t
o the Earth in the next few days, it can appear displaced up to about 5 arcminutes from the geocent
ric positions tabulated below. (HINT: to make the numbers line up in straight, vertical columns, se
t your e-mail program to display this message in a font such as Courier that does not use proportio
nally spaced letters.)

Roger W. Sinnott

Associate Editor
Sky & Telescope

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Subject: [BPR] - (Fwd) The Debate at Camp David over Jerusalem's Holy Places
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Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 08:51:33 -0400

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From: MEMRI <memri@erols.com>
Subject: The Debate at Camp David over Jerusalem's Holy Places

Special Dispatch
No. 121

August 28, 2000

Middle East Media Research Institute (MEMRI)
1815 H Street, NW Suite 404 Washington, DC 20006
Phone: (202) 955-9070
Fax: (202) 955-9077
E-mail: MEMRI@erols.com
Website: www.memri.org

[MEMRI holds copyrights on all translations. Materials may only be cited
with proper attribution.]

The Debate at Camp David over Jerusalem's Holy Places

The Jerusalem issue was at the core of the Camp David Summit
negotiations. The Palestinians regard East Jerusalem as a part of the
occupied territories falling under UN Security Council Resolution 242,
and therefore demand full Israeli withdrawal to the June 4, 1967 lines.
For Israel, East Jerusalem is an indivisible part of its territory after
being annexed by Israel in 1967.

However, it is the Christian, Jewish, and Muslim holy sites in Jerusalem
that place the question of Jerusalem in the center of the negotiations.
On July 23, the United States submitted a proposal - based on an Israeli
proposal - to grant the Palestinians full sovereignty in the Muslim and
Christian quarters [including Christian holy sites] while leaving the
Jewish and Armenian quarters under Israeli sovereignty.

In response to this proposal, Palestinian Authority (PA) Chairman Yasser
Arafat told US President Clinton, "I will not agree to any Israeli
sovereign presence in Jerusalem, neither in the Armenian quarter, nor in
the Al-Aqsa Mosque, neither on the Via Dolarosa, nor in the Church of
the Holy Sepulcher. They can occupy us by force, because we are weaker
now, but in two years, ten years, or one hundred years, there will be
someone who will liberate Jerusalem [from them]." (1)

Palestinians Claim Holy Sites

Palestinian claims to sovereignty over Temple Mount are based primarily
on its holiness in Islam. They stated repeatedly that the Muslim holy
places have the status of an Islamic Waqf [religious endowment].

Arafat stated again and again that he represents all Muslims, reminding
President Clinton that he serves as the permanent deputy chairman of the
'Islamic Conference' organization, (2) and that: "The Arab leader who
would give up Jerusalem has not yet been born." (3)(I)

Regarding himself as the heir to the legacy of the Muslim conqueror of
Jerusalem (in 638), Caliph Omar Ibn Al-Khattab who protected Jerusalem's
Christians, Arafat also demanded recognition as the defender and
custodian of Christian holy sites in Jerusalem. "Arafat told us," said
PA negotiator Saib Ereiqat, "that the Christian quarter is more
important to him than the Muslim quarter because of his wish to uphold
the terms of the 'Omar Pact' [regarding the status of non-Muslim
monotheist religions according to Muslim tradition]." (4)

Israeli Claims and the Palestinian Reactions

Israel too presented its demand for sovereignty over the Temple Mount on
the basis of its holiness in Judaism, as the site of the first and
second temples. On this basis, it raised - for the first time - a
demand for a Jewish prayer site on the edge of the mountain.

_____________________________
Footnote:

(I) The secretary-general of the Arab League, Dr. 'Ismat Abd Al-Maguid,
also, stated that "no Arab leader is allowed to relinquish Jerusalem."
Saut Al-Haqq Wa Al-Hurriyya, August 18, 2000.

__________________________

The Palestinians rejected both demands, regarding them as an attempt to
foil any chance for an agreement. The Islamic Awqaf [Islamic
endowments] Council in Jerusalem explained this position: "The Al-Aqsa
Mosque belongs to the Muslims alone, according to a divine decision, and
is part of the Muslim faith. Prayer in it by non-Muslims is forbidden
by [religious] law. Any attempt to harm its holiness or the site
itself, or to desecrate it would injure Muslims all over the world." (5)
(II)

The PA Mufti of Jerusalem and Palestine, Sheikh 'Ikrima Sabri explained
that the buildings surrounding the Al-Aqsa mosque are also holy and
therefore establishing a synagogue there would be impossible: "All the
buildings surrounding the Al-Aqsa mosque are an Islamic waqf… These
buildings have direct openings, doors and windows, to the site of the
Al-Aqsa mosque, and therefore their status is similar to that of Al-Aqsa
in terms of blessing and holiness. Therefore, according to Islamic law,
it is impossible to plunder any of these buildings and turn it into a
synagogue for the Jews." (6)

The Palestinian rejection of Israel's demands to sovereignty and prayer
sites on Temple Mount is based on a complete denial of any Jewish
affiliation with Temple Mount. According to the Palestinians, the
"so-called temple" that Israel recalls, has never been there, and there
is no evidence to suggest its existence. This position was voiced by
Arafat as well as many high-ranking Palestinians, such as PA Minister of
International Planning and Cooperation Nabil Sha'ath (7), Saib Ereiqat,
(III) and PA Legislative Council Chairman Abu 'Alaa.

Arafat told Clinton in this regard: "I am a religious man, and I will
not allow it to be written of me [in history] that I… confirmed the
existence of the so-called temple underneath the mountain." (8)

Abu 'Alaa claimed that the Israeli demand is nothing but a plot: once it
is accepted that the temple existed beneath the mosques, and Israel
gains sovereignty over the land under the mosques - "It will mean that
within a few years they will destroy the mosques." (9) This was a
reference to the September 1996 Western Wall Tunnel riots, in which the
Palestinians claimed that the tunnel was dug with the aim of
destabilizing the foundations of the mosques, to ultimately destroy
them.

Abu 'Alaa also claimed that "at Camp David the Israelis offered
Palestinian sovereignty over the ground and Israeli sovereignty under
the ground. Who would agree to this? They offered Palestinian
sovereignty, and Israeli super-sovereignty. There is no precedent such
a thing. They also offered Palestinian control under Israeli
sovereignty, in a sort of diplomatic representation, similar the status
of an embassy that has sovereignty in Israeli land. Whoever agrees to
such offers betrays faith." (10)

A classified report by the Palestinian leadership on the Camp David
summit refers to this Israeli offer: "The Israelis offered to divide the
sovereignty …so that the Palestinians would have vertical sovereignty
from the sky to the ground, and the Israelis would have sovereignty from
the surface to the center of the earth. What they intended by this
offer was the right to dig for the remains of the so-called temple,
which [archeological] digs have failed to find for the last seventy
years." (11)

PLO Executive Committee Chairman Abu Mazen too denied the right of the
Jews to a prayer site on Temple Mount. He raised a practical argument:
the Palestinian experience with Jews in joint Jewish-Muslim prayer
sites. He stated: "We have learned the lessons of the Tomb of the
Patriarchs in Hebron, and Rachel's Tomb in Bethlehem. The Jews asked to
visit them, then it became the basis for [further] demands. In the
Hebron mosques, they asked to pray at the site, and today anyone who
visits the Tomb is beaten [by them]. For these reasons, as a matter of
principle we will allow neither [Jewish] sovereignty nor prayer in,
around, or above the mosques. (12)

_________________
Footnotes:

(II) Arafat recalled that even Moshe Dayan himself prohibited Jews from
praying on the Temple Mount after 1967: " [So] why do they want to do it
now? The [Israeli] proposals are like mines that will ignite fires in
the region and throughout the world. Beware not to repeat these
proposals [because] they are dangerous and destructive." Al-Ayyam.
August 6, 2000.

(III) According to the reports, Ereiqat made this denial at a Camp David
meeting in the presence of President Clinton, who noted that the
Christian Minister at Camp David believes Israel's version. Ha'aretz
(Israel), July 27, 2000. ___________________________

Akram Haniya, editor of Al-Ayyam and an Arafat advisor who participated
in Camp David, criticized the Israeli demands, and furthermore their
acceptance by the US: "The secular [Israeli] negotiators began speaking
the language of extremist religious Jews. Suddenly, the Jewish access
to the [Muslim] holy sites and Israeli sovereignty over the mountain
became a basic Israeli demand. But the dangerous thing about it was
that the Americans endorsed these demands without hesitation or any
thought about the implications." (13)

Palestinian claims to the Western Wall

The Palestinians state that the Western Wall is also a holy Islamic site
and an Islamic Waqf. Its holiness derives, according to The Koran and
Muslim tradition, from its being the site where the Prophet Muhammad
landed in his divine nocturnal journey from Mecca to Jerusalem. The
Western Wall is where he tied his horse called 'Al-Buraq,' and it is
known in Islam as 'The Al-Buraq Wall.'

At Camp David, Arafat also based his claim to the site on an "assertion
by the British mandatory government in 1929 that the Western Wall is the
Wall of Al-Buraq, and that it is regarded as an Islamic Waqf and an
historic Islamic right." (14)

The PA mufti of Jerusalem and Palestine, Sheikh 'Ikrima Sabri explained
that the Western Wall is part of the Al-Aqsa Wall, and therefore is an
Islamic Waqf. On the other hand, he asserted: "no stone of the Al-Buraq
Wall has any relation to Judaism. The Jews began praying at this wall
only in the nineteenth century, when they began to develop [national]
aspirations, as Yossi Beilin has said." (15)

Nevertheless, the Palestinians are ready to acknowledge the right of
Jews to pray at the Western Wall out of "respect to Judaism," but only
on the condition that the sovereignty over it will be Palestinian.

PA Minister for Jerusalem Affairs Feisal Al-Husseiny explained that:
"The PA is ready to discuss all the arrangements relating to free
access, worship and Jews visiting Jerusalem, on the condition that the
sovereignty over the city be fully Palestinian." (16) However, as Abu
'Alaa asserted: "there is no point in discussing the details of these
arrangements, before Israel has recognized Palestinian sovereignty over
[East] Jerusalem." (17)

Abu Mazen recognized the fact that "Jerusalem is holy for all
[religions]" and explained that even though the Jews would be granted
the right to pray at the wall - the wall will remain an Islamic Waqf:
"All parties have a right to their religious worship on the mountain.
The Jews have the right to visit the Western Wall and pray there,
despite the fact that the British Commission asserted in 1929 that the
wall is an Islamic Waqf. Arafat has always said that he will allow them
to pray at the site." (18)

Arafat expressed this idea in an interview with the Japanese news agency
NHK during his last visit to Tokyo. While rejecting Israel's claim to
sovereignty on Temple Mount, he added: "However, I offered them [the
Jews] freedom of prayer at the Western Wall. They are praying there,
and I offered that they would be able to continue with their prayers,
because I respect Judaism." Arafat reiterated this statement repeatedly
during the interview. In an answer to the interviewer's question about
the holiness of the Wall to the Jews too, he said: "I have offered them
free access to pray at the Western Wall …they will have an open corridor
to reach the Western Wall." (19)

PA Mufti Sheikh 'Ikrima Sabri, dismissed the concern that the
prohibitions that kept Jews from reaching the "Al-Buraq Wall" from 1948
and 1967, may be repeated if a Palestinian State is granted sovereignty
over the Western Wall. "Circumstances have changed," he said, "[now]
there is international recognition [of the right to religious worship] -
and the Jews are able to reach the Wall. Arafat can tell them: 'Give me
sovereignty over Jerusalem, and I will make it possible for you to reach
the 'Al-Buraq Wall' and pray there. I promise you freedom of worship.'
[However] granting free access to the wall does not mean that the Wall
will belong to them. The Wall is ours." (20)

Endnotes:

(1) Al-Hayat Al-Jadida (PA), August 10, 2000.
(2) Al-Ayyam (PA), August 10, 2000.
(3) Al-Quds (Jerusalem), July 20, 2000.
(4) Al-Hayat Al-Jadida, August 8, 2000.
(5) Al-Quds, August 15, 2000.
(6) Saut Al-Haqq Wa Al-Hurriyya (Israeli Arab weekly), August 25, 2000.
(7) Al-Ayyam, July 27, 2000. (8) Al-Hayat Al-Jadida, August 12, 2000.
(9) Al-Ayyam, July 30, 2000. (10) Al-Ayyam, August 12, 2000. (11)
Al-Quds, August 18, 2000. (12) Al-Hayat Al-Jadida, August 19, 2000. (13)
Al-Ayyam, August 3, 2000. (14) Al-Hayat (London-Beriut), July 27, 2000.
(15) Kul Al-Arab (Israeli Arab weekly), August 18, 2000. (16) Al-Ayyam,
August 22, 2000. (17) Al-Ayyam, July 30, 2000 and Al-Quds, July 25,
20000. (18) Al-Hayat Al-Jadida, August 19, 2000. (19) Japanese News
Agency NHK, August 15, 2000. Asked by the interviewer about the
possibility of sharing responsibility in the holy sites for all three
religions, Arafat reacted decisively: "Sharing of responsibilities?
No! …I cannot agree to that. I am not allowed to accept any [foreign]
sovereignty on places holy to Christianity and Islam." (20) Kul Al-Arab,
August 16, 2000.

The Middle East Media Research Institute (MEMRI) is an independent,
non-profit organization providing translations of the Arab media and
original analysis and research on developments in the Middle East.
Copies of articles and documents cited, as well as background
information, are available upon request.


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Subject: [BPR] - The U.N.'s shocking millennium agenda
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Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 08:03:28 -0500

SUNDAY Q&A
The U.N.'s shocking
millennium agenda
Geoff Metcalf interviews
United Nations expert Joan Veon

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/bluesky_metcalf_news/20000827_xngme_the_u
ns_sh.shtml

By Geoff Metcalf
(c) 2000 WorldNetDaily.com

Several years ago, businesswoman Joan Veon had no idea she would one
day be standing toe-to-toe with world leaders, challenging their
ideas on global government. Since that time, however, Veon has done
extensive research on the United Nations and the organization's
agenda and has attended dozens of U.N. conferences. In her book,
"Prince Charles -- The Sustainable Prince," Veon explores the
prince's connections to both the U.N. and the most powerful corporate
leaders in the world.

WorldNetDaily reporter and talk show host Geoff Metcalf recently
interviewed Veon about her analysis of the United Nations and its
plans for the future.

Metcalf's daily radio show can be heard on TalkNetDaily weekdays from
7 p.m. to 10 p.m. Eastern time.


Question: Please explain to our readers the path to your discovery
about the United Nations and its agenda.

Answer: Before I went to Cairo to attend a U.N. conference, I thought
I was sophisticated; I thought I was well informed. I was a community
activist and was very concerned with what was going on in the schools
-- abortion, condom distribution, outcome-based education. I was
testifying at the county level and at the state level on various
social issues. I really thought I had it together. I was challenged
to go to this economic conference in Cairo because I write an
economic newsletter and I really wanted to see up close what the
United Nations was, because I realized I didn't know who they were or
what they did.

I was quite shocked and amazed at what I saw at this United Nations
conference. It wasn't just the conference itself, it was the
structure. It was the sophistication of advancement of an agenda that
I had absolutely no knowledge about. I remember Vice President Gore
-- he was just elected at that time -- giving a keynote address about
reducing population. And I thought, "What? Do the American people
know what's going on?"

Cairo was my wake-up call. I came home from Cairo mad, upset and with
a suitcase full of their material. I wanted to find out how big,
deep, vast, broad, how far advanced the whole agenda was. When I got
back home, I realized there was a complete dumbing-down, a complete
blackout of what the whole agenda was and what it meant.

Q: What was the difference between when you attended the Cairo event,
ostensibly as an innocent, and when you went to Gorbachev's party in
San Francisco in '95?

A: That was about a year later. In between those two conferences, I
went to about seven others. I was still in the process of trying to
figure out the agenda when I went to my first Gorbachev "State of the
World" forum. For two and a half years, I felt like my head was in a
bowl of Jell-O because I was trying to connect, I was trying to
understand.

You know, when you and I talk about this agenda, it's not a short,
24-second stringer like they have us do in radio because that's how
long people's attention span is. It really takes some time to get
into the agenda. In six years, I have attended 36 conferences and
have talked with presidents and prime ministers all over the world.

Q: I'd like to throw a few key phrases at you and get your response.
"Public-private partnerships." That sounds pretty benign.

A: One of the things to remember is the United Nations never defines
words. Actually, words end up becoming very hidden in their meaning.
That was part of what I was trying to figure out in trying to
understand what their agenda was. Public-private partnerships is a
phrase I first came across in 1996. I spent six months researching
it. I've written two books about it. It is extremely simple and very,
very key. And let me say, it is Al Gore who has spearheaded a
complete structural change of our government through public-private
partnership. Interestingly enough, he's not even talking about it as
to why the American people should elect him president when he has
already restructured our Constitution. But a public-private
partnership is exactly what it says.

Q: Break it down for us into its various components.

A: First of all, it is a partnership. It is a business arrangement.
That is extremely important. The idea of any business is profit. The
partners in this particular arrangement are both public and private.
The public partners pertain to government: local, county, state,
federal, foreign and international governments. They can all be
involved, one or two or three can be involved.

Q: We have a real good example that was just pushed through and it
seemed benign at the time. The agreement that Andy Cuomo blackmailed
Smith and Wesson to sign was ostensibly a public-private partnership,
which would have resulted in government control of a private
industry.

A: The private partners are business, multinational, transnational
corporations -- as well as nongovernmental organizations, these
minions of a different philosophy other than the Constitution who are
all funded by the foundations of the multinational, transnational
corporations. So, what is a public-private partnership? It is the
shifting of government responsibility and government services into a
partnership with other parties -- primarily those who have deep
pockets -- because your county, local and state governments are all
bankrupt. What they are now saying is, "Look, we need stronger hands,
deeper pockets to help us do what we used to do. We're going to do it
a little differently."

Q: Once again, the golden rule: The guy with the gold makes the
rules.

A: Exactly. They say, "We're going to do it in a partnership, a
public-private partnership."

The people of Dallas don't want their taxes raised, so they have to
use what they call "innovative financing." The city sewer system has
just shifted from being owned by the people of Dallas into this new
entity, which is a partnership jointly owned by government and
business. These people are sitting around the corporate table. The
bottom line is, who has the power? Obviously, you and I know very
clearly -- whoever has the deepest pockets and the most money has the
power. What has just happened?

Q: A redistribution of assets?

A: Yes, sir. A major asset has been shifted out of governmental hands
into a new relationship, a public-private partnership that is for
business, which is, by way of philosophical bent, fascism, because
fascism is the marriage between government and business. The bottom
line now is profit -- and the citizens now become customers.

Q: One of the things we have to try to explain to our readers is a
phrase that is starting to be repeated more and more -- "sustainable
development." What does that really mean?

A: Sustainable development came out of the 1992 Rio Earth Summit and,
in fact, I titled my book, "Prince Charles -- The Sustainable Prince"
after sustainable development. He was the one who has been pushing
this Orwellian agenda.

The bottom line is, it is a new concept. The phrase "sustainable
development" was never used in any U.N. document before 1992. The Rio
Earth Summit is where it made its debut. Sustainable development
basically says there are too many people on the planet, that we must
reduce the population, that the United Nations is the only
organization in a position to help monitor and control the assets of
the world.

Q: When you tried to look for the genesis of the philosophy, you
looked in the Constitution, and, not surprisingly, it's not there.
But you did find it somewhere. Tell us where.

A: One day I was analyzing these concepts, and I thought, "Wait a
minute. It's not in my Constitution." So, I immediately thought,
"What is the opposite of my Constitution?" It is the Russian
constitution. And I had just purchased a book, a copy of the 1977
U.S.S.R. constitution, and I got as far as Chapter 2, Article 18, and
there it was. Not using the words "sustainable development," but
there was a full description of sustainable development as to having
to care for the earth for future generations.

If I needed any proof that the United Nations agenda was communist,
that was the document that handed me the proof. When you look at all
the countries in the world, the United States is the only country
with the kind of representative government we have, with a
Constitution with inalienable, God-given rights, not guaranteed or
dependent on what you say or do -- they are your rights, period. In
those rights, we have personal property rights. All of a sudden, we
have the United States supporting, orchestrating, enhancing an evil
agenda I realized was communist.

Q: Where does this spiritual link to Gaia come in? Is that just
window dressing to try to sell it to the masses? It's like these
would-be controllers are attempting a major spiritual shift from the
Judeo-Christian ethic to Gaia. What is Gaia?

A: I guess you could call it window dressing. Gaia is Greek for
"Mother Earth." What really happened at the United Nations Rio Earth
Summit was, first and foremost, philosophical. The world up until
1992 -- and it still is in our opinion -- was under the
Judeo-Christian ethic. Under the Judeo-Christian ethic, God gave man
dominance over the earth. In 1992, what the United Nations did was,
they perverted, inverted, that truth, and they basically said man was
no longer dominant over the earth, but the earth was dominant over
man. They said that we, as men, as living human beings, were equal to
the plants and the animals. And so, what Gaia really is, is paganism.
So, we now have the United Nations espousing a pagan religion and
they are trying to make it equal for each one of us and therefore
stamp out the validity and personhood of Jesus Christ as the Son of
God and the savior of the world.

Q: In their effort to use as a tool these public-private partnerships
and all these non-governmental organizations, wouldn't it be
reasonable to try to exploit the traditional churches as part of that
public-private partnership?

A: That's coming; it's on the docket. Interestingly enough, we are
seeing public-private partnerships in each area. It's not only the
water system and the sewer but it is all areas, all levels of
services that the government used to provide. We are now seeing, and
interestingly, Rep. J.C. Watts from Oklahoma City has been
spearheading, public-private partnerships between governments and
churches.

Q: That's rather like a return to feudalism, isn't it?

A: Yes it is. That's exactly what's happening.

Under our form of government, we the people had rights and we had
ownership in the government. When you shift the assets of government
into a public-private partnership, as you are shifting those assets
(which is a transfer of wealth), those of us who are paying taxes
have to say, "Hey, what are my tax dollars going for?" Before, when
we had government under the Constitution, I knew I was supporting
government to provide certain services. Now, under public-private
partnership, when all of these things and all of these assets have
been shifted out from the aegis of government, where are my tax
dollars going and for what reason? That equates to the same kind of
feudal system whereby the serfs had to pay rent on the land that they
worked.

Q: What I really see is an incremental progression from the republic
we still think we enjoy to fascism to eventually feudalism. Is that
the long-term plan?

A: Absolutely. And that is where I have been going in my research.
I'm looking to write my third book about 21st century feudalism
because that is exactly the shift we are making.

Q: Recently, you sent me a chart that I think was intended to
crystallize and clarify things for me. I thought I was looking at
some kind of DNA chart in a science class I didn't sign up for. Can
you please try to explain the chart?

A: It's all interconnected. Two years ago when I wrote "Prince
Charles -- The Sustainable Prince" -- and this book is as up-to-date
today as it was then in the material and in the message -- I realized
that this thing looks like an ameba.

Q: It looks like something Gene Rodenberry invented when he was way
behind a deadline. There are financial bodies, U.N. agencies,
multinational corporations, professional bodies, NGOs and a lot of
arrows.

A: Let me explain. The United Nations has had the Security Council,
which is composed of the five permanent members, and they decide
whether or not we're going to go to war as a world. Then we have
representatives from every country, which they call the "lower
assembly" or the "first chamber," and that's composed of ambassadors
from the different countries to the United Nations. What they have
been working on in the United Nations since 1988, and even before, is
a second chamber, a people's chamber or "the peoples parliament."

Q: The "perception" of democratization?

A: Yes. And so I include this chart to show that where the United
Nations is evolving is toward a people's chamber or representative
government on the international level that bypasses our Congress.

What we are seeing with the U.N. is, first of all, that all the
countries are reinventing their governments. They are all shifting
governmental assets into public-private partnerships. There are a few
chosen in the inner circle who are busy as part of the multinational,
transnational corporations.

Q: We are now seeing legislation in Congress to authorize about 6,000
troops for a United Nations army. Is this another part of the
incrementalism?

A: Absolutely. Let me just mention, when we start taking a look at
the United Nations and the power it has amassed over the last 55
years -- its structure -- it is pretty big, pretty vast and pretty
deep. The bottom line is, there are three things missing to make it
full world government. Number one, representative government at the
international level, which is the People's Millennium Assembly. They
want the people of the world to have their own voice.

Q: They want them to "think" they have their own voice.

A: That's correct. Number two, global taxation. Believe me: they are
not going to rest until they have a way of unlimited income from you
and me. Number three would be a rapid deployment force. And yes, we
now have a House Bill, HR 4453, to allow America to send 6,000 of her
finest to the United Nations to serve under United Nations
jurisdiction and control. I think they want 42,000, so it's seven
countries to begin with.

Q: Several countries have already agreed to this, and the core of the
rapid deployment force is in place.

A: That's right. What that means is, every time somebody doesn't want
world government, they already have a rapid deployment force that can
be sent immediately to take care of the problem.

Q: How integral is the British Royal Family in all this?

A: That is something I have been researching and constantly I am
finding connections to the British Royal Family with the United
Nations. For example, Prince Charles, in the Prince of Wales Business
Leaders Forum, which we haven't had time to go into, basically is
writing books on corporate governance. You see, when you shift
government from government to a public-private partnership,
corporations now are in a position of governance. They call it
corporate governance. Interestingly enough, Prince Charles and his
Prince of Wales Business Leaders Forum are leaders and trendsetters
in what corporate governance means and how to do it through
public-private partnerships.

Q: In an interview that Prince Charles gave on BBC in 1994, he said,
"So much I try to do is behind the scenes. So it is difficult for
people to understand how all the things fit together." Frankly, isn't
part of his objective not to let people know how "all the things fit
together"?

A: Absolutely! And that's why I find it fascinating that Charles is
coming out of the closet for the Gorbachev State of the World Forum,
which will be donuted around the People's Millennium Assembly. The
agendas are the same. Mikhail Gorbachev, the United Nations and
Prince Charles -- their agendas are all the same. And my question is,
which throne does Charles really want?

Q: I know people who have received death threats for writing less
compelling, less researched and documented stuff than you have. Yet
you still continue to attend all these events. You are going to be in
New York in September right?

A: Yes.

Q: How are you received at all these U.N. conferences? Are you
considered the crazy aunt in the basement no one wants to
acknowledge?

A: Not at all, because I understand their agenda. To be honest, I
have had some absolutely hilarious run-ins with major movers and
shakers on a global level who, when I level THE question at them, are
so dumbfounded, they answer it. Then, they get mad at me or they get
mad at themselves for answering it. I'm doing a job, just like you
and WorldNetDaily. I'm looking to help the American people understand
the threats to our sovereignty, the threats to our freedom, our
personal property rights and the fact that we appear to be on the
deck of the Titanic and going down. It's up to Americans to make sure
that doesn't happen.

Q: So how do we stop it?

A: Number one, the battle at this point has basically shifted down to
the local, county and state levels. That's where our battle is. Get
involved; look around; ask questions; don't be afraid. I believe it
is a spiritual battle above all and, therefore, I think it begins
with us, with our own humbleness and repentance before God. The
bottom line is, once freedom is lost, it is lost forever. It is
irretrievable. It would be a lot harder to get freedom once we lost
it versus protecting it and saving it while we still have it.

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Subject: [BPR] - U.S. Citizens Freed, Underground Church Seeks End To Persecution
From: bpr-list@philologos.org("Shophar_Sho_Good")
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 08:15:24 -0500

U.S. Citizens Freed, Underground Church Seeks End To Persecution
http://www.insidechina.com/news.php3?id=192798

BEIJING, Aug 25, 2000 -- (Agence France Presse) Three U.S. citizens detained
along with about 130 other members of an underground Protestant church in
central China have been released, a U.S. Embassy official said Friday.

The embassy was informed by the Henan province foreign affairs office Friday
afternoon that the Californians, Henry Chu, Sandee Lin and Patricia Lan, had
been freed from detention, an embassy spokesman told AFP.

The Americans, members of the China Fangcheng Church, were taken into
custody with the other worshippers when 50 police officers descended on a
church gathering Wednesday in the village of Dawangzhuang.

The Chinese parishioners are still in detention, with 10 of them transferred
to a prison facility and likely to face sentencing on charges of organizing
a heretical cult, the Hong Kong-based Information Center for Human Rights
and Democracy said Friday.

The three Americans had been detained for what Chinese authorities
considered activities incompatible with their tourist visas, the Embassy
official said.

The US Embassy said the Chinese officials told an embassy official who
traveled to the scene that the three Americans were free to leave Henan
province.

However, the embassy had not been able to contact the Americans and their
whereabouts and plans were unknown. Foreigners in similar cases have had
their visas cancelled and been ordered to leave the country within 48 hours.

The church on Friday also issued a letter to President Jiang Zemin through
the Hong Kong rights group calling on Jiang to end the persecution against
the group and release all the worshippers, the rights group said.

In the letter, the church said it was no different from other Protestant
churches overseas and that it was not an evil cult, as police arresting
members accused it of being.

The detained practitioners have been separated into 15 groups for
interrogation, the rights group said.

One member, named as Tao Xue, was beaten by police during questioning, the
group said.

The church also urged the international community to pressure Jiang to stop
oppressing the group when Jiang visits New York on September 4 on the heels
of an international religious conference, the Millennium World Peace Summit,
to be held from August 28-31 in New York.

Jiang will be attending the United Nations Millennium Summit from September
6 to 8.

The church, which has 500,000 members, is one of about 14 underground
churches labeled evil cults for refusing to conform to the demands of the
government's religion bureau, which tightly monitors religious groups.

Members of the other churches have been sent to prison.

Altogether, the 14 churches have about five million practitioners.

China recognizes five major religions: Buddhism, Taoism, Islam, Catholicism
and Protestantism and counts 100 million believers among the five big
religions with a clergy of about 300,000.

The government insists it grants its citizens religious freedom, despite
frequent crackdowns on underground churches, Muslim religious groups,
Tibetan Buddhists and most recently, the Falungong and Zhonggong spiritual
groups. ((c) 2000 Agence France Presse)

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Subject: [BPR] - U.S. Citizens Freed, Underground Church Seeks End To Persecution
From: bpr-list@philologos.org("Shophar_Sho_Good")
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 08:15:24 -0500

U.S. Citizens Freed, Underground Church Seeks End To Persecution
http://www.insidechina.com/news.php3?id=192798

BEIJING, Aug 25, 2000 -- (Agence France Presse) Three U.S. citizens detained
along with about 130 other members of an underground Protestant church in
central China have been released, a U.S. Embassy official said Friday.

The embassy was informed by the Henan province foreign affairs office Friday
afternoon that the Californians, Henry Chu, Sandee Lin and Patricia Lan, had
been freed from detention, an embassy spokesman told AFP.

The Americans, members of the China Fangcheng Church, were taken into
custody with the other worshippers when 50 police officers descended on a
church gathering Wednesday in the village of Dawangzhuang.

The Chinese parishioners are still in detention, with 10 of them transferred
to a prison facility and likely to face sentencing on charges of organizing
a heretical cult, the Hong Kong-based Information Center for Human Rights
and Democracy said Friday.

The three Americans had been detained for what Chinese authorities
considered activities incompatible with their tourist visas, the Embassy
official said.

The US Embassy said the Chinese officials told an embassy official who
traveled to the scene that the three Americans were free to leave Henan
province.

However, the embassy had not been able to contact the Americans and their
whereabouts and plans were unknown. Foreigners in similar cases have had
their visas cancelled and been ordered to leave the country within 48 hours.

The church on Friday also issued a letter to President Jiang Zemin through
the Hong Kong rights group calling on Jiang to end the persecution against
the group and release all the worshippers, the rights group said.

In the letter, the church said it was no different from other Protestant
churches overseas and that it was not an evil cult, as police arresting
members accused it of being.

The detained practitioners have been separated into 15 groups for
interrogation, the rights group said.

One member, named as Tao Xue, was beaten by police during questioning, the
group said.

The church also urged the international community to pressure Jiang to stop
oppressing the group when Jiang visits New York on September 4 on the heels
of an international religious conference, the Millennium World Peace Summit,
to be held from August 28-31 in New York.

Jiang will be attending the United Nations Millennium Summit from September
6 to 8.

The church, which has 500,000 members, is one of about 14 underground
churches labeled evil cults for refusing to conform to the demands of the
government's religion bureau, which tightly monitors religious groups.

Members of the other churches have been sent to prison.

Altogether, the 14 churches have about five million practitioners.

China recognizes five major religions: Buddhism, Taoism, Islam, Catholicism
and Protestantism and counts 100 million believers among the five big
religions with a clergy of about 300,000.

The government insists it grants its citizens religious freedom, despite
frequent crackdowns on underground churches, Muslim religious groups,
Tibetan Buddhists and most recently, the Falungong and Zhonggong spiritual
groups. ((c) 2000 Agence France Presse)

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Subject: [BPR] - Have you seen Bigfoot?
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Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 08:24:58 -0500

Have you seen Bigfoot?
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/bluesky_repack/20000826_xrpkg_have_you_s.shtml

By Andrew Griffin

COTTON ISLAND - Is "Bigfoot" prowling the woods in the Cotton Island area of
northeast Rapides Parish? Some residents of that area believe he is - and
they say he smells bad.

Three sightings of a creature believed to be a "Bigfoot" creature have been
reported in the past few days in the Cotton Island area, north of Holloway
and east of Esler Regional Airport.

Four-toed footprints, coarse black hair samples and the eyewitness accounts
have some residents believing that an elusive Bigfoot creature is lurking in
the nearby forests and swamps of Little Creek and Boggy Bayou.

"I never dreamed one would be back here," said Mary Ward, a Cotton Island
resident, who reported that a fisherman saw a Bigfoot creature carrying a
hog.

Earl Whitstine of Pollock and Carl Dubois of Montgomery probably wouldn't
have believed it either - except, they say, they saw the creature with their
own eyes. Whitstine says he saw the creature twice this week.

The two were working on a timber-cutting crew from Delrie Wood Products of
Colfax, they said, when they spotted Bigfoot near an area where they were
clearing wood on Ward's property.

Whitstine said it was early Tuesday morning that he was surveying the
property line to cut the timber when he first spotted Bigfoot.

"It was hairy and looked like a human in a way," Whitstine said, adding that
the creature was 25 yards away from him.

"I hollered at him, and he took off running. It happened so quick, I didn't
have time to be scared," Whitstine said. "I don't know what it was, but it
had big feet." When Whitstine told the timber crew about his experience,
most of them said they wouldn't believe it until they saw it for themselves.

Dubois said that when he heard the story, it was "kind of hard to believe"
until he "saw it with my own eyes." On Thursday morning, Whitstine and
skidder operator Dubois said they were walking on the property, near the
spot where Whitstine's earlier sighting had occurred, when Bigfoot showed up
again.

Whitstine and Dubois said they were both shocked and surprised.

"When we saw it, Earl hollered at it, and it ran off down towards (the
bayou)," Dubois said, adding, "I wouldn't have believed it if I hadn't seen
it." Whitstine said before Bigfoot's appearance at Boggy Bayou, he had
planned on going camping in the area with his children. Now he's
reconsidered.

"Now, there ain't no way," Whitstine said of the camping idea.

Officers from Rapides Parish Sheriff's Office came to the scene and looked
at the footprints and took hair samples.

"It looked good to us," said Deputy C. Brown after leaving the scene with
his partner.

Ward, who has lived at Cotton Island for many years, said Bigfoot began
showing up in her neck of the woods earlier this week.

The first report came from the fisherman who reported seeing a Bigfoot while
he was wading in a nearby lake.

"He told us he was in the brake and (Bigfoot) walked up on him. It appeared
that (Bigfoot) had a 150-pound hog under his arm," Ward said. The fisherman
reported the creature appeared to be 7 feet tall and covered in black hair.
When their eyes met, they briefly stared at each other and then Bigfoot
darted off into the surrounding woods, the fisherman said.

"He said that when he took off, he (Bigfoot) was kind of hunched over," Ward
said. "And he smelled bad." People who have reported seeing Bigfoot
creatures at close range report the creatures smell bad and are very hairy.
They are also known to avoid people.

The area where Ward lives, Cotton Island, is very remote and is in low-lying
country that floods during periods of heavy rain. The recent drought has
left many of the water sources dry, making access to her land easier.

At a bait shop on a dirt road near Ward's home, friends and neighbors had
gathered to talk about the creature which had been spotted by loggers
earlier in the morning. Tracks left by the creature were still clearly
visible in the now-dry Boggy Bayou.

"This is the third time he's been seen in this area," Ward said before going
down to Boggy Bayou and pointing out the strange tracks.

Darrell Clark, who said he has hunted and fished in the area all his life,
said the tracks are very unusual.

"I ain't never seen anything like this in all my life," Clark said.

In the mud, the tracks look fresh. Measured at about 14 inches long, they
follow the bayou for about 10 yards and then appear to go up an embankment
and back into the forest.

Stefanie Neal of Deville said she hasn't seen or heard Bigfoot, but the
tracks in Boggy Bayou have made her a believer.

"Everybody's been talking about it. I didn't believe it until I saw the
prints," Neal said.

Johnny and Sissy Johnson, who live in the area, said they have heard strange
noises at night - noises possibly uttered by Bigfoot.

"It sounds like an elk hollerin'," Johnny Johnson said.

Scott Kessler, a Pineville fireman and investigator for the Louisiana
chapter of the Bigfoot Research Organization, was planning on going to the
area and taking plaster casts of the footprints as well as having the hairs
tested, following an investigation.

Kessler has been tracking Bigfoot sightings in central Louisiana for four
years and has had several encounters with a creature he believes is a
Bigfoot.

Most sightings of "Bigfoot," also sometimes called Sasquatch, have been
reported in the Pacific Northwest. Most scientists are not convinced of
Bigfoot's existence, saying many of the reported sightings actually involved
apes or bears or hoaxes.

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Subject: [BPR] - Upcoming events
From: bpr-list@philologos.org("Moza")
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 09:48:22 -0400

August 28-31. 2000
Millennium World Peace Summit of Religious and Spiritual Leaders
[One of my sources states there will be full coverage on CNN.]

August 28, 3000
In Morocco, an Arab Summit on Jerusalem

September 6-8, 2000
UN Security Council Millennium Summit

September 13, 2000
Anniversary of "Declaration of Principles" Accord signed on September 13,
1993 between Israel and Palestinians.

September 29 - October 1, 2000
Rosh HaShanah

October 7, 2000
Pope to consecrate Millennium to Mary.

October 8/9, 2000
Yom Kippur

October 13, 2000
Anniversary of date "Peace and Safety" Accord enters into force.

October 13/14, 2000
Beginning of Feast of Tabernacles


From: moza@butterfly.mv.com

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Subject: [BPR] - The U.N.'s Shocking Agenda: Follow-up part one
From: bpr-list@philologos.org
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 09:01:08 -0500

>>>I was quite shocked and amazed at what I saw at this United
Nations conference. It wasn't just the conference itself, it was the
structure. It was the sophistication of advancement of an agenda that
I had absolutely no knowledge about. I remember Vice President Gore
-- he was just elected at that time -- giving a keynote address about
reducing population. And I thought, "What? Do the American people
know what's going on?"<<<<

("The U.N.'s shocking millennium agenda: Geoff Metcalf interviews
United Nations expert Joan Veon" ; http://www.worldnetdaily.com)

__________

Al Gore, promoting environmentalists Paul and Anne Ehrlich's 1990
book "The Population Explosion," wrote: "The time for action is due,
and past due. The Ehrlichs have written the prescription..." And
what does the Ehrlichs' book prescribe? According to Ben Wattenberg,
a columnist writing in The Washington Times, they suggest "reducing
per capita income, reducing Social Security, increasing foreign aid,
doubling gasoline prices, and favoring regulations telling Americans
how many children they may have."

(Ben Wattenberg, Gore in the political balance. , The Washington
Times, 04-15-1999, pp A21.)

__________

"But consider now 'Beyond Malthus' by Lester Brown, Gary Gardner and
Brian Halweil, all of the Worldwatch Institute, of which Mr. Brown is
president. Worldwatch is no marginal organization of green flakes.
The book's introduction notes that Worldwatch is supported by some of
the most important foundations in America, including Ford,
Rockefeller Brothers, MacArthur, Hewlett, Packard, Turner, Charles
Stewart Mott and, wouldn't you know, the U.N. Population Fund (your
tax dollars at work).

"Talk about junk science. Ignoring much demographic evidence, Mr.
Brown's thesis is that the world is suffering from 'demographic
fatigue,' that the AIDS epidemic in sub-Saharan Africa is the leading
indicator, and it's all going to get worse unless we do what the
book's authors say, immediately.

"What is this fatigue? What causes it? According to 'Beyond Malthus,'
the world's population is growing so fast in the less developed
countries (LDC) that there soon won't be enough grain, water,
forests, fish, energy, jobs, housing or meat. Such strains are
already raising death rates in sub-Saharan Africa, via AIDS. Tomorrow
the world. Birth rates may be falling now, but AIDS-like tragedies
will (inexplicably) increase birth rates, causing worse tragedy.
Everyone everywhere ought to have condoms.

"For the record: In the last 30 years total fertility rates in the
LDCs plummeted from above 6 children per woman to below 3 and are
still falling, rapidly. World population grew by 400 percent this
century, while people got richer and healthier. U.N. projections
indicate a 35 percent to 50 percent increase by 2050, after which
population will likely fall."

(Ben Wattenberg, Gore in the political balance. , The Washington
Times, 04-15-1999, pp A21.)

________________

"News of their announcement electrified last month's world population
forum in The Hague: Microsoft tycoons Bill and Melinda Gates were
giving billions to curb world population.

"Director Nafis Sadik of the U.N. Population Fund called it an
'extraordinarily generous' donation that would give a 'powerful
boost' to world population efforts.

"'Bill and Melinda Gates,' she said, 'have once again demonstrated
their compassion for the poor.'

"Why are some of the world's richest people, including cable TV mogul
Ted Turner, the Gateses and investor Warren Buffett, investing so
heavily in population control?

"'You have wealthy white men spending hundreds of millions of dollars
to contraceptualize, sterilize and abort poor brown, yellow and black
women in the developing worlds,' said Steven Mosher, president of the
Population Research Institute. 'That's a scary thought.'"

(Jennifer Kabbany, Gates, tycoons' largess aims to curb world's
birthrate; Some scholars disagree overpopulation is global threat. ,
The Washington Times, 03-24-1999, pp A2.)

____________

"London - Although the growth rate of the world population is
slowing, the United Nations said yesterday that the number of young
and elderly is expanding so quickly they pose a serious challenge to
society."

(REUTERS, World Growth Rate Slows. , Newsday, 09-03-1998, pp A28.)

___________

"Our tax money finances Planned Parenthood, an organization founded
by Margaret Sanger. In Planned Parenthood's 1985 Annual Report, its
leaders proclaimed that they were, 'Proud of our past, and planning
for our future.'

"How could anyone claim to be proud of an organization when history
records that its founder wrote of the necessity of 'the extermination
of 'human weeds'...the 'cessation of charity'...the segregation of
'morons, misfits, and the maladjusted' and...the sterilization of
'genetically inferior races?'

"Margaret Sanger: 'Birth control appeals to the advanced radical
because it is calculated to undermine the authority of the Christian
churches. I look forward to seeing humanity free someday of the
tyranny of Christianity no less than Capitalism.'" [Quote taken from
"Killer Angel" by George Grant, p. 104]

(Beyond Birth Control: The Population Control Agenda by Dr. Stan
Monteith, M.D.; http://www.khouse.org/articles/update/popcontrol.html)

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Subject: [BPR] - The U.N.'s Shocking Agenda: follow-up part two
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Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 09:18:54 -0500

"Q: One of the things we have to try to explain to our readers is a
phrase that is starting to be repeated more and more -- 'sustainable
development.' What does that really mean?

"A: Sustainable development came out of the 1992 Rio Earth Summit
and, in fact, I titled my book, 'Prince Charles -- The Sustainable
Prince' after sustainable development. He was the one who has been
pushing this Orwellian agenda.

"The bottom line is, it is a new concept. The phrase 'sustainable
development' was never used in any U.N. document before 1992. The Rio
Earth Summit is where it made its debut. Sustainable development
basically says there are too many people on the planet, that we must
reduce the population, that the United Nations is the only
organization in a position to help monitor and control the assets of
the world."

(The U.N.'s shocking millennium agenda: Geoff Metcalf interviews
United Nations expert Joan Veon; http://www.worldnetdaily.com)

____________

"Environmental leadership has already embarked on a strategy to do an
end run around the Constitution. It's called 'sustainable
development,' and not only is it being used as an instrument to blur
the distinction between public and private land... it is the
justification for what is rapidly becoming an open war on property
rights.

"The first salvo in this attack was the National Biological Survey
Bill. This bill was the brainchild of Secretary of the Interior
Bruce Babbitt ... and Assistant Secretary George Frampton... It was
put together in record time for a government agency during the spring
and summer of 1993 and put on the fast track...

"Babbitt and Frampton put together the perfect property rights
assault weapon because it sounded so innocent. It was supposed to
provide an inventory of ecosystems and species to permit sustainable
development. However, according to Tom Lovejoy, Babbitt's science
adviser, the National Biological Survey (NBS) would give the federal
government absolute control over all development in America. '[The
NBS will] map the whole nation for all biology and determine
development for the whole country and regulate it all because that is
our obligation as set forth in the Endangered Species Act.'

"Incredibly, during the Congressional Subcommittee and Committee
hearings Babbitt and Frampton were adamant that landowners had no
right to know when their land was being inventoried. Landowners were
even denied their rights under the Freedom of Information Act to find
out what the government had inventoried.

"...On the day in October 1993 that the bill was to be voted upon,
alerted Congressman [after being inundated with phone calls from
outraged citizens] added key amendments that protected landowners...
This was unacceptable to Babbitt... once the amendments were added he
withdrew the bill."

(Coffman, Michael S., "Saviors of the Earth?", (c)1994; pp. 183-4)

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Subject: [BPR] - The U.N.'s Shocking Agenda: follow-up part three
From: bpr-list@philologos.org
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 09:29:10 -0500

"Q: Where does this spiritual link to Gaia come in? Is that just
window dressing to try to sell it to the masses? It's like these
would-be controllers are attempting a major spiritual shift from the
Judeo-Christian ethic to Gaia. What is Gaia?

"A: I guess you could call it window dressing. Gaia is Greek for
'Mother Earth.' What really happened at the United Nations Rio Earth
Summit was, first and foremost, philosophical. The world up until
1992 -- and it still is in our opinion -- was under the
Judeo-Christian ethic. Under the Judeo-Christian ethic, God gave man
dominance over the earth. In 1992, what the United Nations did was,
they perverted, inverted, that truth, and they basically said man was
no longer dominant over the earth, but the earth was dominant over
man. They said that we, as men, as living human beings, were equal to
the plants and the animals. And so, what Gaia really is, is paganism.
So, we now have the United Nations espousing a pagan religion and
they are trying to make it equal for each one of us and therefore
stamp out the validity and personhood of Jesus Christ as the Son of
God and the savior of the world."

(The U.N.'s shocking millennium agenda Geoff Metcalf interviews
United Nations expert Joan Veon; http://www.worldnetdaily.com

___________________

"Gaia is Mother Earth. Gaia is immortal. She is the eternal source of
life. She does not need to reproduce herself as she is immortal. She
is certainly the mother of us all, including Jesus...Gaia is not a
tolerant mother. She is rigid and inflexible, ruthless in the
destruction of whoever transgresses. Her unconscious objective is
that of maintaining a world adapted to life. If we men hinder this
objective we will be eliminated without pity."

(Coffman, Michael S. "Saviors of the Earth?", 1994, pg. 145; quoting
James Lovelock in Orion Nature Quarterly 8, no. 1 (1989): 58). (James
Lovelock is a highly respected British scientist who first coined the
word "Gaia" in referring to "Mother Earth" and the theory that all
living things on earth interact effectively as components of one
superorganism.)

____________________

"At some time not more than a few thousand years ago, the concept of
a remote master God (the Judeo-Christian God), an overseer of Gaia,
took root...[As these people moved west] they brought a sky god, a
warrior cult, and a patriarchal social order...The evolution of these
[people] to the modern men who reid their infinitely more powerful
machines of destruction over the habitats of our partners in Gaia,
seems only a small step."

(Coffman, Michael S. "Saviors of the Earth?", (c)1994, page 147;
quoting Lovelock in "The Ages of Gaia: A Biography of Our Living
Earth").

____________________

"Mary is close and can be talked to. She is believeable and
manageable. It could be that the importance of the Virgin Mary in
faith is something of this kind, but there may be more to it. What if
Mary is another name for Gaia? Then her capacity for virgin birth is
no miracle...it is a role of Gaia since life began...She is of this
Universe and, conceivably, a part of God. On Earth she is the source
of life everlasting and is alive now; she gave birth to humankind and
we are a part of her."

(Coffman, Michael S. "Saviors of the Earth?", page 148; quoting
Lovelock in "The Ages of Gaia: A Biography of Our Living Earth").

_____________________

"The modern day worship of nature is no different than that of the
pagan cultures throughout history. Once again we are living in raw
fear of what the nature gods will do to us if don't obey them. One
can only speculate when sacrificial offerings will once again be
offered up to these gods and goddesses." (Coffman, pg. 153)

_____________________

"The spiritual sense of our place in nature . . . can be traced to
the origins of human civilization. A growing number of
anthropologists and archeo-mythologists. . . argue that the
prevailing ideology of belief in prehistoric Europe and much of the
world was based on the worship of a single earth goddess, who was
assumed to be the fount of all life and who radiated harmony among
all living things. . . . [Ceremonial sites] seem to confirm the
notion that a goddess religion was ubiquitous throughout much of the
world until the antecedents of today's religions--most of which still
have a distinctly masculine orientation--swept out of India and the
Near East, almost obliterating belief in the goddess. The last
vestige of organized goddess worship was eliminated by Christianity .
 . . [I]t seems obvious that a better understanding of a religious
heritage preceding our own by so many thousands of years could offer
us new insights . . . ." (page 260)

"Al Gore's Vision of Planetary Oneness" by Berit Kjos; quoting Al
Gore in his book, "Earth in the Balance" ;
http://www.crossroad.to/text/articles/Gore7-99.html

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Subject: [BPR] - Re: prayer request
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Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 08:04:50 -0700

Thank you for your prayers.
Little 8 yr old Matthew will be fine.
The kid that hit him, first backed over him then pull forward to leave the
scene Matthew was under the car and got burns on his ear and shoulder from the
exhaust pipe and a broken leg. Thank God!
Hazel
noshbox@lvcm.com

[This is great news Hazel! We praise God right along with you... ]

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>
> please pray for a little boy named Matthew,
> he just got hit by a car while riding his bike.
> His father is a very good friend of David our son in law
> thanks
> Hazel
> noshbox@lvcm.com
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Subject: [BPR] - The U.N.'s Shocking Agenda: follow-up part four
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Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 10:27:28 -0500

Q: How integral is the British Royal Family in all this?

A: That is something I have been researching and constantly I am
finding connections to the British Royal Family with the United
Nations. For example, Prince Charles, in the Prince of Wales Business
Leaders Forum, which we haven't had time to go into, basically is
writing books on corporate governance. You see, when you shift
government from government to a public-private partnership,
corporations now are in a position of governance. They call it
corporate governance. Interestingly enough, Prince Charles and his
Prince of Wales Business Leaders Forum are leaders and trendsetters
in what corporate governance means and how to do it through
public-private partnerships.

Q: In an interview that Prince Charles gave on BBC in 1994, he said,
"So much I try to do is behind the scenes. So it is difficult for
people to understand how all the things fit together." Frankly, isn't
part of his objective not to let people know how "all the things fit
together"?

A: Absolutely! And that's why I find it fascinating that Charles is
coming out of the closet for the Gorbachev State of the World Forum,
which will be donuted around the People's Millennium Assembly. The
agendas are the same. Mikhail Gorbachev, the United Nations and
Prince Charles -- their agendas are all the same. And my question is,
which throne does Charles really want?

((The U.N.'s shocking millennium agenda Geoff Metcalf interviews
United Nations expert Joan Veon ; http://www.worldnetdaily.com)

____________

"As a result of my personal study...I have come to believe that when
the United States ratified the United Nations charter, we and the
other countries of the world who were not part of Britain's
Commonwealth, reverted back under British rule through the United
Nations organizational structure."

(Veon, Joan. "Prince Charles: The Sustainable Prince" (c)1998, page
157.)

____________

If you are interested in reading more of Prince Charles' involvement
in world government, please consider the following book:

Antichrist and a Cup of Tea
by Tim Cohen

Paperback - 444 pages
Illustrated edition (March 1998)
Prophecy House
ISBN: 0966279301

http://philologos.org/guide/books/cohen.tim.1.htm

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Subject: [BPR] - Moon Goddess & Sun Goddess BARBIE DOLLS?
From: bpr-list@philologos.org("Shophar_Sho_Good")
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 10:43:54 -0500

Trying to confirm that a line of Barbies is out there by Bob Mackie... "Moon
Goddess Barbie" & "Sun Goddess Barbie". Any Barbie fans out there???

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Subject: [BPR] - RE: The U.N.'s Shocking Agenda:...SEE - AGENDA 21
From: bpr-list@philologos.org("Shophar_Sho_Good")
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 11:03:08 -0500

If you really want your hair to curl do a web-search on "Agenda 21" and look
at how control is being at the local level through regulation and land
grabs. Agenda 21 is, and has been around a long time without the average
American even aware of it because the media has not chose to cover it.
Agenda 21 is being implemented, in effect, through our EPA. Please take the
time to look at this (key buzz-phrases, "sustainable development" & "civil
society"), if this is the first you've heard about this. Many long term
implications...Shophar

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"Q: One of the things we have to try to explain to our readers is a
phrase that is starting to be repeated more and more -- 'sustainable
development.' What does that really mean?

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Subject: [BPR] - Real World News - 08/28/00
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Selected items from:

REAL WORLD NEWS 08/28/2000

Visit Real World News online at http://www.realworldnews.net

'ASSASSIN IN CHIEF' WELCOME IN U.S.
The man who boasts he was responsible for killing 243 U.S. Marines
and thousands of others is coming to the United States, with nary a
protest from the Clinton State Department. Mohsen Rezaii, former
commander in chief of Iran´s Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps is
due to arrive in the United States as part of an Iranian delegation
to a conference of the Interparliamentary Union to be held at the
United Nations Aug. 30 through Sept. 1.
http://www.newsmax.com/articles/?a=2000/8/26/140220

U.S. WILDFIRES CONVERGE IN "PERFECT STORM"
Uncontrolled blazes roaring across the U.S. West converged to form
even larger fires Sunday, causing what one senior U.S. official
called "a perfect storm" of tinderbox conditions, high winds, and
forests thick with fuel. "It is tragic what's happened out there,"
Agriculture Secretary Dan Glickman told Fox News Sunday as fire
officials reported a total of more than 1.6 million acres ablaze in
13 western states. Nightmare weather conditions have combined to
bring about a worst-case scenario for U.S. firefighters, Glickman
said. http://news.excite.com/news/r/000827/12/environment-fires

CHINESE TO TOUR SENSITIVE U.S. FACILITIES
The Pentagon is hosting a group of Chinese strategic military
planners whose trip to sensitive U.S. military facilities is raising
questions in Congress about violations of law. The delegation from
China's Academy of Military Sciences arrived Friday and is headed by
Gen. Wang Zuxun, the new head of the academy that is developing
military doctrine on how China can use advanced technology to defeat
more powerful foes like the United States, said Pentagon officials
who spoke on the condition of anonymity.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/national/default-2000824224615.htm

CHINESE MILITARY GETS LESSON IN U.S. THINKING
Twenty-five senior Chinese military officers are in Boston to learn
details about U.S. decision-making that critics say will help China
fight the United States in a conflict over Taiwan. The People's
Liberation Army (PLA) officers arrived Saturday. The officers are
there to hear lectures by current and former U.S. national security
officials who have discussed how the United States would respond to a
crisis over Taiwan. "Most of the officers are intelligence collectors
or technology collectors," said one knowledgeable official.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/national/default-2000828224544.htm

MILITARY RESERVES FALLING SHORT IN FINDING RECRUITS
The nation's military Reserves are increasingly struggling to fill
their ranks with new recruits, even as the Pentagon relies on them
more heavily than ever to conduct operations around the world,
according to military officials and Pentagon documents. In each of
the last three years, the Army, Naval and Air Force Reserves have
each fallen short of their recruiting goals; last year, the Air Force
Reserve missed its objective by nearly 40 percent, signing up only
7,518 of the 11,791 recruits it needed. Only the Marine Corps Reserve
has steadily recruited enough new troops in recent years.
http://www.nytimes.com/library/national/082800reserve-short.html

SMILE! THE FEDS WANT YOUR FACE ON FILE
Big Brother never forgets a face. Or, at least, he won't if the
State Department implements cutting-edge facial-recognition
technology to track anyone entering or leaving the country. A
traveler's mug would appear not only on a passport or visa, but would
also be digitized and entered into a massive database of smiles and
grimaces. This would "enhance the security of [the nation's] borders
[due to] increasing threats to U.S. citizens and property," according
to an official State Department request for information recently
issued to surveillance firms.
http://www.foxnews.com/national/082800/face.sml

U.S. CRIME RATES FALL TO HISTORIC LOW
Violent crime in the United States dropped last year to the lowest
level since the government began keeping records 27 years ago, a
development President Clinton hailed on Sunday as evidence the
administration's anti-crime strategy was working. The Justice
Department's Bureau of Justice Statistics, in an annual report
released on Sunday, said the total number of non-lethal violent
crimes -- such as rape, robbery and assault -- fell by more than 10
percent in 1999, a record drop.
http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20000827/ts/crime_decline_dc_1.html

THREE ISRAELI SOLDIERS DIE IN BUNGLED SNATCH RAID
Three Israeli soldiers were shot dead, apparently by their own
colleagues, when a commando operation to seize the most wanted
Palestinian militant went disastrously wrong at the weekend. A fourth
soldier was gravely wounded and the target of the snatch raid,
Mahmoud Abu Hanoud, believed to be the senior military commander of
the Muslim extremist group Hamas, escaped. Lt Gen Shaul Mofaz, the
Israeli chief of staff, said the raid suffered from a "grave
operational flaw". Some or all of the Israeli casualties may have
been victims of "friendly fire" from a back-up unit who misidentified
them as terrorists, he said.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/et?ac=001136033854542&rtmo=fqssMl0s&atmo=mm
mm 0wSR&pg=/et/00/8/28/wisr28.html

ARAFAT SAYS NO CONCESSIONS OVER JERUSALEM
Yasser Arafat said on Monday Palestinians would not make any
concessions on the issue of Jerusalem, which he described as the
``key for peace and war'' in the Middle East region. Speaking at the
opening ceremony of an al-Quds (Jerusalem) Committee meeting in the
southern Moroccan city of Agadir, Arafat also called on the world
community for support on the fate of the holy city. ``We made moves
to ease peace talks at the Camp David summit...but that does not mean
we will accept a concession on our land, especially the holy city of
al-Quds,'' he said.
http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20000828/ts/mideast_jerusalem_dc_1.htm
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ISRAELI POLICE DEFUSE BOMB IN JERUSALEM
Israeli police said they averted a very big catastrophe on Sunday by
defusing a pipe-bomb hidden in a backpack and left near a busy
Jerusalem intersection. The discovery of the bomb, which police said
could have killed motorists in rush hour traffic on Monday morning,
illustrated the fragility of efforts to forge an Israeli-Palestinian
peace deal.
http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20000827/ts/mideast_violence_dc_2.html

RUSSIAN TELEVISION OUT FOR MONTHS, SAYS NTV CHIEF
Russian television could be disrupted for weeks, if not months, after
a fire tore through the country's main broadcasting tower, a senior
executive with NTV private television said Sunday. "Unfortunately our
forecast right now is not optimistic," Alexei Malinin, deputy head of
NTV, told TNT television, one of only two stations now functioning in
the capital. "We will not be able to establish regular broadcasting,
by my forecasts, for several months," Malinin said.
http://www.russiatoday.com/news.php3?id=193133

SECRET TORPEDO TEST 'BLEW SUB APART'
Two civilian experts from a Russian military plant were conducting
secret munitions tests aboard the Kursk submarine, which sank after
the hull was ripped apart in an accident, it emerged last night. The
final moments of the doomed craft have been pieced together by
Western military experts, who believe a test firing went disastrously
wrong, igniting highly inflammable propellant and detonating missile
and torpedo warheads. The resulting explosions blew a huge hole in
the right-hand side of the Kursk's nose, where the torpedo room is
located.
http://www.sunday-times.co.uk/news/pages/sti/2000/08/27/stifgnrus01003
h tml

POLITICAL UPROAR EXPECTED OVER NEW E.U. SECRECY CODE
European Union governments have quietly adopted new secrecy rules
that limit the public's right to know what EU officials are doing on
a wide range of military and civilian matters. The rules, adopted in
an unpublicized written procedure in Brussels while the European
Parliament was on vacation, are likely to cause a political uproar
when the Parliament returns next month, political observers said,
particularly because Parliament is currently attempting to increase
rather than decrease openness on EU matters.
http://www.iht.com/IHT/TODAY/SAT/FPAGE/rule.2.html

INDIA FACES WORST FLOODING IN DECADES
Incessant rains continue to lash India's southern state of Andhra
Pradesh for the sixth consecutive day as the death toll in the floods
Sunday reached 150. The floods are the worst in the Andhra Pradesh
in the last five decades. Rescue workers say that swirling waters
from the breached Foxsagar dam swept thousands of homes away and a
thick sheet of water is heading toward an overflowing lake in the
heart of Hyderabad.
http://www.newsmax.com/articles/?a=2000/8/27/172959

LIEBERMAN STRESSES FAITH AT DETROIT CHURCH
Democratic vice presidential candidate Joseph Lieberman, campaigning
in crucial Midwestern states, told an African-American church
congregation on Sunday that religious faith should play a larger role
in the nation's public life. ``The Constitution guarantees freedom
of religion, not freedom from religion,'' said Lieberman, the U.S.
senator from Connecticut tapped by presidential candidate Al Gore
(news - web sites) three weeks ago as his running mate. ``I say
there must be and can be a constitutional place for faith in our
public life,'' said Lieberman.
http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20000827/ts/campaign_lieberman_dc_5.ht
ml

CHENEY SAYS CLINTON DRIVES MILITARY INTO DECLINE
Republican vice presidential candidate Dick Cheney, adding fuel to
the campaign dispute over U.S. military readiness, said on Sunday
that the Clinton administration had driven the armed forces into
decline. ``They've cut too far. They've cut too deep. They've also
added commitments. A big part of the difficulty ... is the force is
spread too thin,'' he told the NBC program ``Meet the Press.''
http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20000827/ts/campaign_military_dc_1.htm
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SOUTHERN HIGH SCHOOLS INVITE GOD TO GRIDIRON
Students and grass-roots conservative groups across the Bible Belt
stood up over the weekend and made a defiant statement to the U.S.
Supreme Court: They plan to pray at high school football games. The
battle lines were drawn, from the Carolinas across to Texas, with
organized efforts to challenge the Supreme Court's ruling in June
prohibiting student-led prayer at games and assemblies sanctioned by
public schools. Incidents were reported, with various levels of
participation, at scores of high school football games around the
South and are likely to increase as word spreads.
http://www.washtimes.com/national/default-200082822152.htm

SCHOOL PRAYER PROTESTS THROUGHOUT SOUTH
Opponents of a U.S. Supreme Court ruling against school prayer
organized "spontaneous" protests at high school football games
throughout the South over the weekend. In Tifton, Ga., about 100
people prayed aloud before the start of a high school football game
at Tift County Stadium. "It bothers me that every other group, like
homosexuals and other groups, can march down the road and it's no
problem, but when Christians speak up they're told to shut up," said
group member Ronnie Luke, pastor of the Carpenter Road Church of God
in Tifton. http://www.newsmax.com/articles/?a=2000/8/28/01735

WORLD RELIGIOUS LEADERS CONVENE PEACE SUMMIT
Hundreds of world religious leaders today will enter the United
Nations General Assembly hall in a procession of prayer, for the
first time taking a spiritual agenda to the heart of the political
body. The Millennium World Peace Summit of Religious and Spiritual
Leaders, assembling more than 1,000 participants from 12 world
faiths, will work on proposals to end armed conflict, poverty and
harm to nature. Bawa Jain, secretary-general of the event, said
religious harmony is a first step for world faiths to help political
bodies with conflict resolution, as an "early warning system," and
for global education.
http://www.washtimes.com/national/default-2000828221212.htm

CHURCH PROPOSES SEVEN N.T. TEXTS BE DROPPED
A document published yesterday by the Irish Catholic Church has
proposed that seven New Testament texts be dropped from church
services as they give "an undesirably negative impression regarding
women". The texts would be better omitted from Catholic Church
services, and where quoted, "in any context, they should be suitably
commented on in the light of contemporary church teaching", according
to the document. It also suggested that "the language of the
Scriptures needs to be explained so that it is not implemented as
being anti-woman".
http://www.ireland.com/newspaper/front/2000/0828/fro3.htm

RABBIS ORDER FALLOW LAND IN SABBATH YEAR
The land of Israel is about to enter a year-long rest when, as a
Sabbath offering to the Lord, the Book of Leviticus stipulates that
the fields should neither be planted nor pruned. The biblical law
states that the land must lie fallow for 12 months every seven years.
The shmita laws go into force from Rosh Hashanah, the Jewish New
Year, which falls at the end of next month. Owing to the growing
strength of ultra-Orthodox political parties and the growing
militancy of their rabbis, there will be special care taken this year
to ensure a strict enforcement of the rules.
http://www.sunday-times.co.uk/news/pages/tim/2000/08/28/timfgnmid01002
h tml

SETTING UP THE UNITED NATIONS FOR FAILURE
The United Nations has failed in its goal to "save succeeding
generations from the scourge of war." Indeed, rather than resolving
conflicts in some cases, it has aggravated them. So says a
surprisingly candid report written by a panel of 10 foreign policy
and security experts chosen by the U.N. Secretary General Kofi Annan.
The experts' report - to be considered by U.N. leaders Sept. 6-8 at
the Millennium Summit in New York - provides an extensive and
illuminating view of the shortcomings of U.N. peacekeeping policies
as well as detailed suggestions for reform.
http://www.washtimes.com/op-ed/ed-house-2000828162228.htm

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Subject: [BPR] - Bible's `Minor Prophets' Get Some Recognition
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Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 12:10:33 -0500

Bible's `Minor Prophets' Get Some Recognition
By RICHARD N. OSTLING
Associated Press
August 26, 2000

http://www.ctnow.com/scripts/editorial.dll?fromspage=CG/articles/life.htm&ca
tegoryid=&bfromind=1221&eeid=2971331&eetype=article&render=y&ck=&userid=2065
53684&userpw=.&uh=206553684,2,&ver=1.41

Quick quiz: Identify Nahum, Habakkuk, Zephaniah, Haggai, Zechariah and
Malachi.

Scripture mavens will recognize them as the final books of the Christian Old
Testament. (Judaism lists the biblical books in a different order.)

Even those who know the names may not be familiar with the books, which are
among the least read in the Bible. They form the second half of the 12
"Minor Prophets," minor meaning they are brief compared with Isaiah,
Jeremiah and Ezekiel.

The six books are really two groups of three. In the days of Nahum, Habakkuk
and Zephaniah, Assyria was waning before its defeat by Babylon in 612 B.C.
Haggai, Zechariah and Malachi taught after Babylon had fallen to Persia, and
the Jews were allowed to return home from Babylonian exile.

These six books are treated in "Minor Prophets II" by Grace Emmerson,
formerly of the University of Birmingham, England. Her book is part of the
Doubleday Bible Commentary series, written in a nontechnical style for lay
Christians.

Some of Emmerson's observations:

Nahum. His poetic oracles depict God as a wrathful avenger, which Emmerson
admits is unpleasant reading. But the prophet is not gloating about a
conquered enemy, but crying for relief "from tyrannical oppression and from
savage acts of war against the helpless."
The point is, evil will not go forever unpunished. "God's judgment falls on
those who flout his will for justice, peace and love."

Habakkuk: His main message is that human minds cannot fathom the ways of the
sovereign God. Emmerson writes: "Nation destroys nation, empires rise and
fall. Amid the wreckage of time God's kingdom alone remains, a kingdom
founded not on military might but on vulnerable love."
Habakkuk expresses frustration that God appears inactive amid oppression.
Like him, we should "be open with God about the things that trouble us, the
awkward questions that test our faith....God does not confuse doubt with
blasphemy."

Zephaniah: This prophet wrote just before King Josiah's religious reforms,
when Judah was spiritually at its worst. He denounces the people for
following false gods and paying more attention to moneymaking than to true
worship.
As usual with the Old Testament, Zephaniah is no simple nationalist. He
casts his gaze on countries to the west, east, south and north, then warns
his countrymen that they have no privileged protection.

Haggai: His prophecies occurred in 520 B.C., just after the return from
Babylonian exile. Haggai denounced those who build "paneled houses" while
God's temple lay in ruins. He does not promise mechanical blessings if the
temple is restored, but sees the rebuilding as "an outward and visible sign
of their determination to put God first."
For 21st century believers, says Emmerson, money spent on beautiful church
buildings is a constant reminder that worship takes priority.

Zechariah: This book, from the same temple-building period, includes eight
strange visions reminiscent of the Book of Revelation, with floating horns,
a flying scroll, olive trees and mountains of bronze.
Though the prophet is interested in sincere personal commitment to God, like
Haggai he knows that "worship must have a public face and so, too, must
commitment if it is to undergird society and shape its values." No narrow
nationalist, Zechariah ends with a grand vision of all nations worshipping
the true God.

Malachi: For Christians, Malachi's final verses are a fitting Old Testament
conclusion because the next book is the New Testament Matthew. Malachi 4:4
exhorts the people to remember the law given to Moses on the holy mountain,
while in Matthew 5-7, Jesus interprets Moses' law in the Sermon on the
Mount.

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Subject: [BPR] - Child sacrificed for voodoo
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Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 12:12:41 -0500

26/08/2000 10:39 - (SA)

Child sacrificed for voodoo

http://news.24.com/News24/World/0,1113,2-10_902950,00.html

Phil Stewart
 
Brasilia - Brazilian police said on Friday that they arrested two
self-proclaimed voodoo priests for the murder of a six-year-old boy who bled
to death in a black-magic ceremony.

In statements to police, Joaquim Alves, 71, and his girlfriend Priscila
Souza Ferreira, 22, blamed each other for the murder of Carlos Andres de
Jesus Barros, who disappeared last Thursday in the impoverished Brazilian
state of Bahia. Police said the pair was suspected in other child killings.

The boy was found dead at the bottom of a well with his clothes removed, his
hands and feet bound and two puncture wounds in his stomach, authorities
said.

The couple led police to the body after their shantytown neighbours
tipped-off authorities.

"One neighbour called, saying the boy kept crying and screaming, that he was
suffering," said lead investigator Juliana de Oliveira Soares.

"Inside the house, we found a series of religious icons, all of them of
spirits that do harm. Then we found the body."

Enraged after learning of the murder, townspeople on Friday destroyed Alves'
makeshift home in the tropical city of Vitoria da Conquista.

Bahia is the centre of the country's rich Afro Brazilian religious culture,
where followers often are "possessed" by spirits during religious
ceremonies. Animal sacrifice is practiced on special occasions, but human
sacrifice is not allowed.

Soares said the two voodoo priests killed the boy after Alves's 10-year-old
son led him to the house. Alves told police that his girlfriend has tried to
kill other children as well.

"We are investigating the possibility they have killed other children. This,
unfortunately, is a possibility, but I am not able to say more at this
time," Soares said.

Some leaders of the Afro Brazilian religious culture tried to distance
themselves from the slaying.

"These people, these are witch-doctors. They have nothing to do with any
houses of worship here," said Antonio Bispo, an official at the Bahian
Federation of Afro Cults.

Last year, Brazilian police arrested a witch doctor on charges of murder and
grave robbing after finding 16 skulls and other bones buried beneath his
home. The remains of a small child also were found, as was a photo of an
infant with the words "Para Morrer", or "To Die", written on the backside.

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Subject: [BPR] - Pyramidiot power
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Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 12:15:56 -0500

Pyramidiot power

Small discoveries chip away at ancient myths, but the last thing people seem
to want is a reasonable explanation for the secret of the pyramids

http://www.nationalpost.com/tech/story.html?f=/stories/20000825/380753.html

Abouali Farmanfarmaian
National Post
 
Mariella Furrer, SABA

The sun sets behind the Giza pyramids as tourists pass by riding rented
camels. Plato, Pliny, Isaac Newton and Napoleon all had their theories on
these monumental structures.

 
The discovery earlier this summer of two mini-replicas of the pyramids in
workers' tombs in Giza may not carry the same dazzle-factor as the
unearthing of a cache of mummies, but given the dearth of physical evidence
and the deluge of "fringe" pyramidology, it is the sort of shred
Egyptologists have had to rely on to reasonably explain the who, how, why
and when of the pyramids.

The micro-pyramids, modelled on the same design made to house kings, with
false doors, causeways and offering basins, add another layer of evidence in
support of the theory that the pyramids were built by regular Egyptians,
probably drafted for a national project, and not by slaves under the whip of
a ruthless ruler. Also probably not by a "lost civilization" with a special
databank of knowledge. Nor by aliens, for that matter.

The last thing people seem to want, though, is a reasonable explanation for
the mystery of the Great Pyramid, despite increasing evidence for the most
mundane story.

The micro-pyramids also put a dent in the long-accepted belief that the
pyramid form was a proprietary symbol of the Pharaoh's divinity. "Now, we
can say that ordinary people were also allowed to use the pyramid design to
construct their own tombs," Zahi Hawass, director of the Giza plateau, said
in a report.

Excavations over the past decade near the Sphinx have yielded evidence of a
labour force with a penchant for beer and access to advanced medical care.
Work on the pyramids was, at worst, exacted as a sort of labour tax.

But who wants to hear that the Great Pyramid was built by 20,000
beer-guzzling people on workfare? Prosaic explanations will not do: its age,
sheer mass and architectural superiority demand mythical attribution.

Khufu's Great Pyramid is, after all, the only surviving wonder of the
ancient seven. (King Khufu, also known as Cheops, ruled ancient Egypt from
2551 to 2528 BC) For 5,000 years, it remained the tallest man-made
structure. It contains enough stone blocks to draw a wall around France. Its
angles and joints approach mathematical perfection.

Even in the age of micro-processors and satellite hookups, we are awed by
this pile of stones stacked in a basic Euclidean arrangement. Robots have
crawled up its shafts and sonograms have been made of its chambers. The
discovery of a dead spider by a remote camera made it to broadcast
television.

Why? The answer from every quarter is the same. From tourists to Hawass,
from Robert Bauval, author of The Orion Mystery, to Larry Prahl, director of
the American Institute of Pyramidology, which believes in divine revelation,
everyone uses the same two words: "mystery," and "magic."

The secret of the pyramids is that they have a secret. For millennia,
nothing was known about them, so people grafted their own fantasies onto
them.

Herodotus, who gives us the first account of them, writes that Khufu, having
spent all his treasures without finishing the Great Pyramid, sent his
daughter out into prostitution "with orders to procure him a certain sum."
The daughter asked every one of the men to give her a present of a block of
stone in addition to the flat rate she charged. She then used those stones
to build, in her own memory, "the pyramid which stands midmost of the three
that are in front of the great pyramid" -- which is made of approximately
20,000 stones. That would make for an unlikely number of stone-cutters for
even the Pharaoh's daughter to handle.

Plato connected the Great Pyramid to Atlantis. Roman authors, such as Pliny
and Proclus, claimed that it served as an astronomical observatory. Some
claimed it as the Granaries of Joseph. The Arabs believed that it contained
immense wealth and the secret knowledge of the universe.

The age of reason changed nothing. Johannes Kepler, the 15th-century
astronomer and physicist, called his planetary theories the lost laws of
Egypt. Isaac Newton, one of the great pyramid-obsessed, thought the
circumference of the Earth was encoded in them. In 1859, mathematician John
Taylor "discovered pi" in the ratio of the height to base of the Great
Pyramid, making many subsequent astronomers and mathematicians go batty with
bizarre pyramidology.

Today's pyramid fantasies have only moved with the times. People have put
forth theories that the pyramids could be (among many other things): a
divine revelation, a stone form of the Bible with "Jesus himself the chief
cornerstone," guiding beacons for extraterrestrial spaceships, the work of
ancient astronauts from the missing 12th planet of our solar system, a
micro-wave power plant.

For the foreseeable future there will remain enough unanswered questions to
keep people theorizing about vaults of occult information and astrological
alignments.

Detailed studies and small new discoveries, such as the micro-pyramids, make
converts, but slowly. Mark Lehner, now a top archeologist in Giza, was once
a "fringer." Robert Bauval, once a leader in the "fringe" world, now says,
"Egyptians, people like you and me, constructed the pyramids." He adds, "The
evidence is overwhelming."

For their whacky theories, fringers are nicknamed "pyramidiots." But it
might bear reminding that they are continuing a tradition: Plato, Newton and
Napoleon were also pyramidiots. So are many of the rest of us.

We make and watch movies such as Star Gate. We study the pyramids in school.
We wade through a swarm of pesky vendors and hopscotch our way over camel
dung to stand in line and enter a narrow, dark corridor full of nothing but
dust and inert air. We put pyramids on the U.S. dollar bill, in front of a
casino in Vegas, on thousands of company logos and in front of the great
repository of French high culture, the Louvre.

Perhaps the Great Pyramid responds to some basic human impulse: In the face
of our individual deaths, it embodies a hope that we may at least endure as
a species. In a way, Khufu's afterlife is part of our afterlife. When the
Great Pyramid crumbles, a part of the human psyche will be found in the
rubble.

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Subject: [BPR] - Y2K fallout leaves prophet at a loss
From: bpr-list@philologos.org("Shophar_Sho_Good")
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 12:42:54 -0500

Y2K fallout leaves prophet at a loss

De Jager says he was right to predict doom and gloom

http://www.nationalpost.com/tech/story.html?f=/stories/20000824/379457.html

Robert Thompson
Financial Post
 
Peter de Jager says it was his warnings that prevented year-2000 computer
disasters from occurring.

 
The sky didn't fall, the world didn't revert to a pre-industrial age and
most computers continued as if nothing had happened.

But when the internal date on computers rolled from 1999 to 2000 and the
machines did not fail, things did change dramatically for Peter de Jager,
the Canadian Y2K prophet, who isn't relishing his newfound role as Y2K
Chicken Little.

Almost nine months after the notion of a Year 2000 disaster vanished, Mr. de
Jager, who was charging up to $12,500 per speaking engagement, is trying to
restore his credibility as a consultant.

"My problem is a bit different than others," said Mr. de Jager, who returned
to consulting full-time after the year-2000 problem faded. "My problem
doesn't revolve around whether people think this was a hoax or not. My
problem is one of typecasting."

Like an actor who can't get another role?

"Very much so. I did more than 2,000 media interviews in a three-year
period. And there is no doubt that when people think of me they say, 'Oh
yeah, he's the Y2K guy.' That's an issue."

The truth, Mr. de Jager said, is he was vilified when the year-2000 disaster
didn't happen as predicted. It didn't happen, he said, because he raised the
alarm, which caused businesses to spend an estimated US$350-billion. The
Canadian federal government alone spent about $1.9-billion to fix lines of
code in the software running on its computer systems.

The 45-year-old computer expert was among the first to win any attention for
the Y2K bug when he wrote a 1993 article titled "Doomsday 2000." As 2000
approached, he was increasingly quoted on the issue, and gave hundreds of
speeches around the world.

Mr. De Jager said he won't apologize for receiving large speaking fees.
"People value you according to what you charge. When you do something for
free, which I did even when I was charging the high fees, you don't get as
much as a cup of coffee. When you charge $12,500, you get picked up in a
stretch limo."

He also ran www.year2000.com, a Web site he unsuccessfully tried to auction
at the start of the year. Bids of US$10-million turned out to be phoney, and
the site is still running on the Internet, though it now receives scant
attention from Mr. de Jager. He said he was offered US$3-million in 1998 for
the site, but turned it down because he didn't want it to fall into the
hands of Y2K opportunists.

Though Mr. de Jager said he has been unfairly grouped with more radical Y2K
hysterics like Gary North, a U.S. historian, he admits to making provocative
statements in order to motivate businesses and governments.

That doesn't ring true with Paul Kedrosky, a business professor at the
University of British Columbia and a vocal critic of Mr. de Jager.

"He got his shot at fame," said Mr. Kedrosky. "There's no question that he
took everything he could get from it. But when you say so many things, those
words are no longer in your personal orbit."

Though Mr. de Jager now says he was conservative in his discussion of the
potential ramifications of the Y2K bug, he concedes he changed his stance in
early 1999. At that point he wrote another article entitled "Doomsday
Avoided," in which he wrote: "We've finally broken the back of the Y2K
problem."

Up to that point he had been extremely pessimistic, telling one magazine
reporter that "people will die because of [Y2K]." He even endorsed a product
that was meant to weed out problems in personal computers, though he now
says small businesses never really faced any serious issues.

Mr. de Jager found the media spotlight to be intoxicating, according to Mr.
Kedrosky.

"It was pretty exciting as a technologist to think you were going to be at
the front of something that was going to change the world," Mr. Kedrosky
said.

Mr. de Jager said he did his job so well that he was blamed when the
prophecies of gloom and doom didn't come to fruition. The federal
government, for example, is still functioning because they dealt with year
2000 issues. A spokesman for the government's post-year 2000 operations
agreed with Mr. de Jager, saying systems would have failed if they hadn't
used 11,000 government employees to fix thousands of lines of computer code.

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Subject: [BPR] - Re: Moon Goddess & Sun Goddess BARBIE
From: bpr-list@philologos.org("Khazneh")
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 13:07:52 -0500

There are some doozies here in the showcase:

http://www.barbiecollectibles.com/

Goddess of Spring and Goddess of Beauty:

http://www.barbiecollectibles.com/collectors/series/series_h/classicalgoddess.asp

2001 Preview:

http://www.barbiecollectibles.com/collectors/01_preview/pshow/

Here is the entire collectibles index, which includes a few Bob
Mackie
'Goddess' designs:

http://www.barbiecollectibles.com/collectors/showcase/doll_index.asp

Not listed as a Mackie design, there is this one:

Midnight Moon PrincessT Barbie(r)
Part of the fabulous new Celestial CollectionT, Barbie(r) doll emerges
as a luminous beauty eclipsing all the wonders of the night sky. Her slim
silvery metallic gown has short sleeves and a square neck, softened
with a distinctive drape. The gown is wrapped in sheer white fabric that
falls to a frothy swirl at Barbie doll's feet. Adding to the ethereal
effect, Barbie wears faux pearl bracelets on each wrist, connected by
double strands of faux pearls. Her elaborately styled black hair is
accented with a faux pearl crown. For added drama, Barbie stands
against a large white sphere, representing the moon in all its glory.

[What a photo!]

http://www.barbiecollectibles.com/collectors/00_preview/pshow/pshow_h/26789.asp

Here's another good one:

Morning SunT Princess Barbie(r)
Barbie(r) doll glows as a glorious princess inspired by the splendor of
the sun. She looks dazzling in a slim golden metallic gown with a
distinctive slit down the front of the bodice. A brilliant golden cape
attaches to her wrists, then falls dramatically to the floor. Her
shining accessories include a golden crown, golden armbands and a
golden
neckband with a sun medallion.

http://www.barbiecollectibles.com/collectors/00_preview/pshow/pshow_h/27688.asp

I found this collectibles site from a link on http://www.barbie.com

In that catalog are plenty of weird 'regular' Barbies... then I saw
the collectibles site. Yikes.


----- Original Message -----
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Subject: [BPR] - Moon Goddess & Sun Goddess BARBIE DOLLS?

>
> Trying to confirm that a line of Barbies is out there by Bob
Mackie...
"Moon
> Goddess Barbie" & "Sun Goddess Barbie". Any Barbie fans out there???

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Subject: [BPR] - WHAT IS AGENDA 21?
From: bpr-list@philologos.org("Shophar_Sho_Good")
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 13:16:29 -0500

WHAT IS AGENDA 21?

http://www.iol.ie/~isp/agenda21/watsa21.htm

Agenda 21 is a blueprint for sustainable development into the 21st
Century. Its basis was agreed during the "Earth Summit" at Rio in
1992,
and signed by 179 Heads of State and Government.

At Rio an undertaking was given that local councils would produce
their
own plan - a Local Agenda 21. This would involve consulting with the
community, because it is the people in the area who have the local
knowledge needed to make sensible decisions for their future.

Agenda 21 is a guide for individuals, businesses and governments in
making choices for development that help society and the environment.
If
we do not tackle the issues it concerns, we all face higher and higher
levels of human suffering and damage to the world we live in. Note how
it goes further than just looking at the environment - social factors
are seen as very important as well.

Agenda 21 is a huge document, with 40 chapters in 4 sections. It deals
with:

Social and economic dimensions;- developing countries; poverty;
consumption patterns; population; health; human settlements;
integrating
environment and development. Conservation and management of
resources:-
atmosphere; land; forests; deserts; mountains; agriculture;
biodiversity; biotechnology; oceans; fresh water; toxic chemicals;
hazardous radioactive and solid waste and sewage. Strengthening the
role
of major groups:- women; children and youth; indigenous peoples;
non-governmental organisations; local authorities; workers; business
and
industry; farmers; scientists and technologists. Means of
implementation:- finance; technology transfer; science; education;
capacity-building; international institutions; legal measures;
information. Discussion and action on Agenda 21 is going forward at
global level with a series of summits, involving governments: Social
Development (March 1995), Cities (1996); and world conferences (Human
Rights, Women, Population, Climate and Global Warming, Food).

As a result of this series of summits and conferences, something very
important has happened. People are realising that for sustainable
development in the community they have to look past the obvious things
in the environment and pay more attention to social and cultural
issues.
The need to allow women to play a full part is emerging as something
vital. These aspects are part of the peace-making process in the
widest
sense - peace between people along with peace with the planet.

The Social Summit (Copenhagen, March 1995) really brought this out. It
produced a Declaration and Programme of Action for Social Development,
which stresses the need for full participation of all people in
decision-making for their future, and which contains a series of 10
commitments agreed by the governments. These are

An enabling environment for social development;
The goal of eradicating poverty;
The goal of full employment;
The promotion of social integration;
Equality of men and women;
Education;
Speeding up the development of the least developed countries;
Ensuring that structural adjustment programmes include social goals; A
better resourcing for social development; A better framework for
international co-operation for social development. The national Bahá'í
body of the U.K. has asked its local communities to help with their
Local Agenda 21s. The Bahá'í community is thinly spread here but it
does
have a good information network on the Agenda 21 process, partly
because
the Bahá'í International Community is one of the non-governmental
organisations that takes part in Summits and Conferences, and helped
to
hammer out Agenda 21 at Rio. So we offer you this information sheet to
give a brief outline of the process and encourage you to become
involved
in your areas of interest. We have a range of information available
and
will be providing more on key groups (e.g. women, children and youth)
and issues (e.g. unemployment), to give people working with these
groups
and issues an idea of the level and direction of international
discussion and commitment to action.

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Subject: [BPR] - Churches 'should hold seances'
From: bpr-list@philologos.org("Shophar_Sho_Good")
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 13:19:28 -0500

August 28 2000 BRITAIN

Churches 'should hold seances'

BY RUTH GLEDHILL, RELIGION CORRESPONDENT
http://www.sunday-times.co.uk/news/pages/tim/2000/08/28/timnwsnws01002
h
tml

PARISHES in the Church of England will next month be urged to hold
"Christian seances" and encourage worshippers to develop their
"psychic
skills", at a church conference. David Christie-Murray, a former
Harrow
schoolmaster and Anglican priest, will call on parishes to set up a
"Christian rescue group", or seance, to help the souls of atheists and
others who have "passed over to the other side". Such souls, he
believes, are "lost and bewildered, in a condition in which they did
not
believe in this life and cannot understand now that they have passed
over into the next." He will argue that there is evidence the dead can
communicate with the living.

The fifth "Christian Parapsychology" conference, at Christ Church
College, Canterbury, is sponsored by the Churches' Fellowship for
Psychical and Spiritual Studies. The fellowship, founded in 1953, aims
to explore the "gifts of the spirit", such as speaking in tongues, as
described by St Paul, operates discreetly to avoid sensationalist
interpretations of its reports. It is at the centre of the Church
establishment: patrons include the Archbishop of York, Dr David Hope.

The conference organiser, Canon Michael Perry, gave warning against
setting up Christian seances in parish churches to help lost souls on
their way. "Most English dioceses have bishops' advisers on
deliverance
who can help with such matters," he said.

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Subject: [BPR] - Peace Summit url
From: bpr-list@philologos.org("Moza")
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 21:14:40 -0400

Millennium World Peace Summit of Religious and Spiritual Leaders
http://www.millenniumpeacesummit.org/

From: moza@butterfly.mv.com

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Subject: [BPR] - Jerusalem belongs to "Palestinians or Christians"
From: bpr-list@philologos.org("Moza")
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 21:30:01 -0400

ARAFAT KICKS OFF JERUSALEM CONFERENCE

Sixteen Arab foreign ministers and the King of Morocco convened today in
Agadir, Morocco for what is being dubbed, "The Jerusalem Conference."
Yasser Arafat has asked the Islamic Council, which is organizing the event,
to come out with a position that either limits his diplomatic flexibility or
provides him with a green light to continue negotiating with Israel. Acting
Foreign Minister Shlomo Ben-Ami said at an afternoon press conference in
Paris that conditions are not yet ripe for another summit, but repeated his
claim that gaps between the two sides have closed. "We are on the verge of
a final-status agreement," he asserted, but added that Israel "cannot afford to
be more flexible."

Arutz-7's Ariel Kahane reports that the Israeli Foreign Ministry believes that
Arafat wishes to see the foreign ministers take a rigid stance, and that such
a development would allow Arafat to shift responsibility for the breakdown in
negotiations with Israel, to the Arab states. In case the foreign ministers
were unclear about his position, Arafat opened the conference by delivering a
fiery speech outlining his political philosophy. He told the audience that
Jerusalem and its holy sites "belong to the Palestinians or the Christians,"
and added that there is no foundation for Jewish claims to the Temple Mount.
 Arafat also complained that "the Jews are trying to steal holy Islamic
property by establishing a synagogue on the site." According to the PLO
chief, although the Palestinians "have already made a number of
concessions to Israel," they would never agree to forfeit their claims to
Jerusalem holy sites. "This is a red line from which we will never retreat," he
thundered. "We will never give up on the Temple Mount or Jerusalem."
Arafat also demanded that Israel retreat to the pre-1967 borders, "just it did
in Lebanon and in the Sinai Desert."

Journalist Yehoshua Meiri notes that relations between Arafat and the
Moslem states are far from cordial. According to Meiri, the Moslem leaders
are less than enthralled with having the PLO leader - "who is essentially the
head of a secular Arab nationalistic movement"- serve as their spokesmen
for Moslem religious interests in Jerusalem. "The Moslem states want to
create an Islamic body, with representatives from the respective states, to
oversee the management of Moslem holy places in Jerusalem," says Meiri.

US President Bill Clinton arrives in Egypt tomorrow to talk with Hosni
Mubarak about America's "compromise" proposal for Jerusalem.

Arutz Sheva News Service
  <www.IsraelNationalNews.com>
Monday, August 28, 2000 / Av 27, 5760
-----------------------

Muslim Leaders Meet Religious Leaders

 By MOHAMED MOUSTAID=
Associated Press Writer=
           AGADIR, Morocco (AP) _ Muslim and Christian religious leaders
joined a gathering of foreign ministers from Muslim nations for the
first time Monday, demanding sovereignty over Jerusalem, part of
marathon efforts by Yasser Arafat to rouse support for the
Palestinian cause.
           ``There can be no peace unless Palestinian Muslims and
Christians recover their holy city,'' said a leading Greek Orthodox
figure in Jerusalem, Attallah Hana, who led a Christian delegation
to the session of the Al-Quds (Jerusalem) Committee in this
Moroccan coastal town.
           A delegation of Muslim religious figures from Jerusalem also
joined the session, which gathered foreign ministers from 16 Muslim
nations.
           Arafat is under growing pressure to make concessions on
Jerusalem after the Camp David peace summit with Israel fell apart
last month over the fate of the city's eastern sector. Amid a
flurry of diplomatic activity since, President Clinton was to meet
Tuesday with Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak, whose officials have
been drawing up proposals over Jerusalem.
           Arafat refused to be squeezed, calling Jerusalem ``the key to
peace and war in the Middle East.''
           ``We refuse any sort of pressure that would lead to a
sovereignty other than the Palestinian, Arab, Islamic and Christian
sovereignty of the city,'' he told ministers at the opening
session, warning of the ``danger of the `Judaization' and
occupation which hangs over al-Quds.''
           ``We have made sacrifices to build the peace of the brave,''
Arafat added. ``But that doesn't mean we will accept concessions on
any of our rights on our occupied territory and, above all, on
Jerusalem.''
           The Palestinians were seeking a firm voice of support at the
meeting in Agadir, an Atlantic coastal resort town more than 200
miles from Rabat. The Jerusalem Committee, part of the Organization
of the Islamic Conference, is designed to protect the Arab and
Muslim character of Jerusalem. It has never before invited
religious figures to attend.
           In Paris, Israel's acting foreign minister told his French
counterpart, Hubert Vedrine, that Europe should ``tell Arafat tough
truths,'' the Israeli Foreign Ministry said.
           ``Arafat will have to make fateful decisions if he wishes to
achieve an agreement which will end the conflict,'' the Israeli
Foreign Ministry quoted Shlomo Ben-Ami as telling Vedrine.
           Israel offered Arafat limited Palestinian sovereignty over some
areas in east Jerusalem during the Camp David summit. But Arafat
refused, demanding full sovereignty, particularly over Muslim and
Christian holy sites in the Old City.
           Morocco's King Mohammed VI said Jerusalem was the ``cause of all
Muslims in the world.'' He said he was ``convinced that ... Clinton
is determined to use all his weight'' to help achieve peace.
           Morocco presides over the Jerusalem Committee, whose members
are
Bangladesh, Egypt, Guinea, Iraq, Iran, Indonesia, Jordan, Lebanon,
Mauritania, Morocco, Niger, the Palestinian Authority, Pakistan,
Syria, Senegal and Saudi Arabia.

http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2569278379-711

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